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RE: https://social.tchncs.de/@Lapizistik/116066028129165315
„Kunst soll unpolitisch sein!“ ist eine politische Forderung.
„Sport soll unpolitisch sein!“ ist eine politische Forderung.
„Kultur soll unpolitisch sein!“ ist eine politische Forderung.
Die Aufforderung irgendwas solle unpolitisch sein ist eine politische Forderung.
@jamie
This is not my point. Even if it _is_ “fair use”: if the llm produces a 1:1 copy (minus some renamed variables) of some relevant piece of code it is not producing something “new”. As a human I can learn from any code (copyrighted or not), but I cannot just take the code, rename some variables and publish it as my own creation. I would loose in court.¹
So technically if you use an LLM to produce code for you you need to check if any relevant piece of it is a copy of anything that exists.
Clean room implementation requires the programmer to not have seen the original code but only the requirements.
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¹otherwise you could just take any piece of copyrighted code, rename variables and say it is yours because an LLM has produced it.
Additionally, AI generated code can be a copyright infringement if the AI basically generated a copy of some copyrighted code. And if we consider that AI is trained on lots of GPLed code there is a high probability it will generate code that would need to be licensed accordingly.
There is no clean room implementation of anything with AI. The code is immediately tainted.
@reticuleena
Naja, der nächste Schritt ist dann, mit dem Chatbot eine sehr großzügige Entschädigung für deinen Kummer mit dem Produkt der FirmaABC auszuhandeln. Die wachen nur auf, wenn es finanziell wehtut.
Wir sollten uns alle so verhalten, daß wir bei einer Machtübernahme der Faschisten was zu befürchten¹ haben.
Und damit möchte ich niemanden zu unachtsamem oder unüberlegtem Tun auffordern, sondern zur Solidarität mit denen², die jetzt schon betroffen sind und Angst vor der Zukunft haben.
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¹was zu verlieren haben wir eh
²fast ausschließlich Marginalisierte
Was? It still is (and I know people still actively playing – and their daughter also started to play).
I never started playing a mud when I was a student as I saw too many dropping out of university without graduating because they spent all there time in the mud (but I was on irc and played (and still play) nethack)
@jollysea
Tales from these times are great, and one thing is: it is tales from a time where people were trying to figure out how to do things best without any direct commercial interests – there simply was no one online trying to sell something.
I know the web from before Tim Berners-Lee created http (remember gopher? 
But even when http was there for some years different services still used different hand-crafted protocols – until corporate firewalls started blocking everything besides http(s) and maybe ssh (and sometimes imap(s)) and suddenly all kinds of services were tunneled over https (ok, and REST was invented).
But I am kinda off from your question as you asked from an end user perspective (where most people won't even know about what's going on under the hood). So sorry for derailing
@jollysea
The old Internet¹ is when people knew there are other protocols than HTTP(S), when the Internet was one way to access Usenet, when software was provided by anonymous ftp, …
And then Angela Bennett (aka Sandra Bullock) ordered the first pizza online…
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¹the Internet is a network of computers based on IP that contains the machine internet.net. This definition is from the IPv4 only times. We still have problems with IPv6.