@reece Specifically with coding, they have improved a lot in 2025, and the tooling around it as well. They still pose a lot of problem with non-programmers using them, but they do truely make experienced devs more productive from my experience. It kinda scares me that new programmers rely on them too much though

@julian @evan I think it's a great perk of ATProto. Once you shipped your app and have seen some success, then you can start thinking about making it resilient by removing dependencies. Right now, it looks to me like this model is superior to foster an ecosystem.

@evan That would make sense. For ATProto, not being required to think about the PDS and the relays implementations must help a ton to get projects off the ground quickly. Hope the Social API changes that

Is it because of money? Perhaps. #bluesky having money helps a ton for sure, but there is a big amount of work done from other unpaid folks as well. Idk the attitude just seems way different.

I love #activitypub but seeing how slow its development is compared to #atproto makes it hard to be excited about it. This goes for both protocol development and ecosystem development.

ATproto has many cool projects popping up every month, the vision is clear and platforms integrate with each other.

I don't see this excitement and work on the ActivityPub side