@Teskariel @dresstokilt @anolandria I would add that getting more and more people to see ICE for what it is will harden the feelings against trump and ice

@dresstokilt @anolandria If the no more kings put protests on the street day after day then it become harder for Trump to isolate people.

@dresstokilt @anolandria No more kings is what is needed on an ongoing basis day after day until the regime collapses. Large number of peaceful protests is almost impossible for dictators to defeat as violence only creates more protesters

@HappyCrow13 @anolandria Waco and davidians had weapons and lost. Black panthers had weapons and lost. Violence eg shooting police is what Trump needs to happen what he is trying to provoke.

@MattMerk @dresstokilt @anolandria Well we were not talking about union rights but I would argue that violent resistance was only part of the work to gain workers rights. Yet, the usa has broken union rights after of Reagan. None of it works without public support. The idea of peaceful resistance is weak is a complete misreading of the how it works.

@HappyCrow13 @anolandria The branch davidians and Waco should not be compared to protesters who are fighting for democracy. Trump has all the weapons you mention so violence is his 'trump' card' so why give him public support. Peaceful protests gain support for the protesters

@wbftw @anolandria Cooperation is the wrong word. Opposition should play to your strengths and Trump are military force and the protesters have public acceptance/approval. Yes, people are going to die no matter what is done but there is a growing sense that Trump and ICE are out of control. There is an old saying, 'When your enemy is busy making a mistake, don't interrupt'. Let Trump be brutal because he loses more support each day and you can't win against tanks

@dresstokilt @anolandria The question is whether they have public acceptance for martial law. If the public see protesters starting fires and shooting then Trump wins but if it is peaceful then he is seen as the brute he is. Yes, both way incur death but one allows success and the other hands Trump a win. This is why Trump is trying to goad violence

@anolandria I would respectfully disagree because they have tanks and Trump is limited at present to his ICE thugs. Why give him a Christmas present where he has an excuse to declare martial law. This is what he is hoping for and people need to not provide it. Sadly, there will be murders by ICE but it is a fight for democracy and people need to stay strong, courageous and peaceful.

@infobeautiful always interesting to see how different maps tell different stories

@zackwhittaker When they are done with the minorities and then come for you reality will really matter but truth will be an flexible concept coming from the dear leader