@Isofruit @krapp @0xabad1dea Interesting.

@Isofruit @krapp @0xabad1dea Another option might be to do federation but a very simple form of federation where when using a chat on another server, your server simply acts as an intermediary between you and the other server, authenticating you and forwarding requests and responses between you, without storing any data from the other server.

@Isofruit @krapp @0xabad1dea How do you discover discord servers other than someone already on the server giving you an invite link

@Isofruit @krapp @0xabad1dea I might not include DMs as a feature and instead have people manually create a chat with a single person. This would be annoying but it would make it clear that the conversation is tied to a specific server.

@Isofruit @krapp @0xabad1dea Yeah, that could be weird. However I don’t think person to person DMs are the main use case of Discord— signal works well enough for that. My impression of discord is that servers are generally created for some sort of social group— a college club, all the students in a specific class, a Minecraft server, etc— to be a place to talk about things relevant to that group or activity.

@krapp @0xabad1dea Also my impression is that the primary use case for discord is for very large groupchats, frequently open to anyone on the internet, in which case encryption isn't very useful as bad actors can either join the chat themselves, or send phishing emails to all 100 chat members knowing that one will probably take the bait. If you want to chat with a small group of people confidentially, signal already exists.

@krapp @0xabad1dea I think when she says no federation she means that each organization hosts its own server which functions completely independently of others. Since discord is divided into different "servers" which you have to switch between, its fine if its replacement makes you switch between different REAL servers in order to message different groups.

@vkc Do you think that things would be better if fedi worked more like a network of blogs and stored comments on the server of the person who made the original post? Then deciding which comments people see is the responsibility of the original post's server, and everyone can see the same comment list. This also would allow posters to delete other peoples' comments on their posts, and to prevent people who they have blocked from commenting.