@nicuveo Yeah, I think the fact that they tend to produce verbose and large quantities of code hinders our ability to judge it as harsh as it deserves. And in some ways, it's impressive. Or it would be, if it wasn't used to throw code to prod

@xgranade @ireneista @noracodes Yeah, and in a place that's very close to hyper-capitalist mindsets, especially US and/or VC-funded places

@ireneista @noracodes That is a very good observation. There's this running thing we hear in our circles around automating ourselves out of a job.

I didn't really think about this before, but that's interesting and somewhat unique, which makes this job even weirder under capitalism.

@fancysandwiches I agree, that's absolutely a part of it. But I think it's also feeling superior and smart while being absolutely fooled by these billionaires' marketing to the extent that they call it "AI" instead of "LLM" and believe in magical claims from these companies instead of math.

It's probably this contradiction is key to short-circuiting thought and just stopping further thought?

I think it's interesting how software engineers are (among?) the most eager working class group to replace themselves with LLMs.

It's interesting because LLMs do a worse job than us, we lose ability/skill to do our job the more we use it, lose our jobs, produce worse software, are less satisfied with our work, etc.

Yet so many of my peers seem to be super excited about and advocate for it, while other working class groups at least detest LLMs if not even consider organising themselves to protect their trade/jobs from LLMs.

Are we becoming the cops (read as: class traitors) of this techno-fascist dystopia?