@axel @koen @fediversity or 'please hand us your government identification' for verification.

@alloalli @Fietsbel @vosje62 @BuyFromEU yup, that ideal situation is already here. But we keep focussing on the stuff that doesn't work yet. Which is not Murena's problem, but lies with all the companies that only build for Google and Apple infrastructure.

Google is definitely not the only org working on Android

@Fietsbel @alloalli @vosje62 @BuyFromEU this is not what the Open Source license dictates. Yes, android makes it very easy to be activated with a gmail account, but that is not a hard requirement.

The code is maintained by them, not owned under the license, and forks exist and thrive like e/OS.

@vosje62 it just works. That's why I'm not a fan of elaborate automations involving stuff that could be controlled with a classic light switch. It is fun to do, but that is about it for me.

@Fietsbel @BuyFromEU

@vosje62 @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU indeed, but it also means that you have to do some maintenance yourself, which has been fun so far.

I do have a wish for some more free time to tinker with it, and add some dashboards to track stuff.

@vosje62 @Fietsbel @BuyFromEU I don't miss those. All I have for that is Home Assistant to collect data in one spot, and that seems to work fine.

@Fietsbel @vosje62 @BuyFromEU I have just accepted that certain apps are not there anymore, and to me that is fine for now.

@Fietsbel @vosje62 @BuyFromEU e/OS doesn't and also works fine.

@vosje62 @BuyFromEU I agree.

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