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What’s your laptop/desktop backup recommendation for general public, not-highly-technical people who don’t have extreme security needs and just want not to lose their family photos etc?

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  • Fazal MajidF Fazal Majid

    @Infoseepage @jwz @cstross @inthehands I also have two NASes, and since they both run ZFS they can use my zfsvault software to sync deltas with ZFS encryption to a pair of 14TB USB hard drives I rotate weekly to the office.

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    @fazalmajid @jwz @cstross @inthehands I personally use Bvckup 2 and run off manual copies to my bank vault drives. I also use it to backup both daily and weekly rotated copies of my user profile folder. I have a strong preference for manually run jobs with fault logging so I can sanity check everything.

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    • jwzJ jwz

      @cstross @inthehands Not only were almost all of my employees born after @dnalounge opened, but probably most of them were born after I took it over...

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      @cstross @inthehands @jwz I have family photos on tin-types. No, I have not digitized them, there is no point. I am the last in my family to know who those people were. I just grab all the boxes and stuff them in my car.

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      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

        What’s your laptop/desktop backup recommendation for general public, not-highly-technical people who don’t have extreme security needs and just want not to lose their family photos etc?

        Maybe it’s just “use the cloud drive,” but…OneDrive seems to cause a lot of problems? or does it?

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        @inthehands This might work: Western Digital 2TB, 5TB, 10TB external USB Hard Drive

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        • your auntifa liza 🇵🇷  🦛 🦦B your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦

          @cstross @jwz @inthehands OMFG WHY DID YOU MAKE ME REALIZE AM ALSO ANCIENT!!!

          i turned twentyteen in 1986.

          jfc.

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          @blogdiva
          You young folk...
          Nixon resigned on my 16th birthday.

          @cstross @jwz @inthehands

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          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

            What’s your laptop/desktop backup recommendation for general public, not-highly-technical people who don’t have extreme security needs and just want not to lose their family photos etc?

            Maybe it’s just “use the cloud drive,” but…OneDrive seems to cause a lot of problems? or does it?

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            @inthehands I use Idrive, which is platform agnostic and reasonably priced. Easy enough for normal people to set up, just install the app and select the folders to back up, backups are automatic.

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            • Kinene⭐🐻C Kinene⭐🐻

              @blogdiva
              You young folk...
              Nixon resigned on my 16th birthday.

              @cstross @jwz @inthehands

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              @c_merriweather @blogdiva @cstross @jwz @inthehands

              I was only a year or so younger. But I was also callow enough to believe there never would have been a worse president in my lifetime than Nixon.

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                @c_merriweather @blogdiva @cstross @jwz @inthehands

                I was only a year or so younger. But I was also callow enough to believe there never would have been a worse president in my lifetime than Nixon.

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                @jackwilliambell @c_merriweather @blogdiva @cstross @jwz
                [VOICE FROM THE BACK CORNER]

                I was there at the laying of the Earth’s foundation. I marked off its dimensions. I stretched a measuring line across it. I laid its cornerstone; its footings were set on the unsightly part of my backyard, in that bare patch next to the garage where it’s mostly gravel. Steve Wozniak hadn’t even written Breakout yet. You kids, you have no idea.

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                • A Sysadmin, but not *your* SysadminN A Sysadmin, but not *your* Sysadmin

                  @inthehands For most non-technical users on Windows or MacOS, definitely Backblaze. Set it and forget it, let it run in the background, restore 30 days' file history if needed.

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                  @NotYourSysadmin @inthehands +1 for Backblaze (for nontechnical user, easiest and most reliable, non-sketchy company…)

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                  • Kinene⭐🐻C Kinene⭐🐻

                    @blogdiva
                    You young folk...
                    Nixon resigned on my 16th birthday.

                    @cstross @jwz @inthehands

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                    @c_merriweather @blogdiva @cstross @jwz @inthehands “birthday presents have never had quite the same flavor since”

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                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                      What’s your laptop/desktop backup recommendation for general public, not-highly-technical people who don’t have extreme security needs and just want not to lose their family photos etc?

                      Maybe it’s just “use the cloud drive,” but…OneDrive seems to cause a lot of problems? or does it?

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                      @inthehands I’ll likely have folks yelling at me about security issues and such but honestly, whatever is built into your OS is going to be the easiest cloud backup solution for a nontechnical user as it’s already integrated with the system you’re using. So iCloud on a Mac or OneDrive on Windows. They’re not perfect but they’re easy and if the person isn’t technical then they likely don’t have to worry about finding the random locations that more technical folks might squirrel away their files.

                      For non-cloud, a periodic backup to multiple external storage devices using either Time Machine or Windows Backup. Ideally storing the most recent drive in a safe deposit box so if there’s a house fire your data loss is only to the last backup.

                      The more secure options like Backblaze and SpiderOak are good options but I’d argue they have enough pitfalls that I wouldn’t want to advise a nontechnical person to use them.

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                      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                        @blogdiva @cstross @jwz I was part of the team (though not a very important part, tbh) that advised Minnesota Public Radio on a storage format when they were digitizing their audio archives in the late 90s / early 00s. The conclusion our group reached was that •no• workaday digital format is suitable for long-long-term archiving, and by far the best approach is to have a process for copying and recopying it all forward onto new physical media into perpetuity.

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                        @inthehands @blogdiva @cstross Exactly this. Don't worry about how long your media will last, just assume that it won't, and have a system that tolerates that. When my backup drive fails, I notice immediately and it's a complete non-issue.

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