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This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating.

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  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

    you wouldn't pool noodle a foxdragonK This user is from outside of this forum
    you wouldn't pool noodle a foxdragonK This user is from outside of this forum
    you wouldn't pool noodle a foxdragon
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    @ben substack posters when you tell them they explicitly support nazis: "ohh but the chicken is so good tho"

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    • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

      This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

      brood of byrdesB This user is from outside of this forum
      brood of byrdesB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @ben
      also note their support and partnership with CBS killing and Trump quisling Bari Weiss's "The Free Press", a right wing reactionary publication.

      https://www.thehandbasket.co/p/substack-announcement-bari-weiss-free-press

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      • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

        This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

        JonathanJ This user is from outside of this forum
        JonathanJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ben thank you

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        • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

          This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

          leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
          leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
          leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
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          @ben might be the first time it's been documented in a national newspaper though

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          • you wouldn't pool noodle a foxdragonK you wouldn't pool noodle a foxdragon

            @ben substack posters when you tell them they explicitly support nazis: "ohh but the chicken is so good tho"

            leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
            leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
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            @kirakira @ben substack owners: ohh but Nazi money is just so good tho

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            • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

              This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

              gabby wheelsG This user is from outside of this forum
              gabby wheelsG This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ben Not just nazis but supports/inflates member counts, perhaps even funnels money to crunchy mom influencer accounts like Jessica Reed Kraus who worked through out 2034 to get Trump elected. Background on this is insidious. She's just a tool but what mechanisms behind the scenes enabled her at substack?

              https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOnFire/

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              • leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M leah & flutters & nose, oh my!

                @ben might be the first time it's been documented in a national newspaper though

                Ben WerdmullerB This user is from outside of this forum
                Ben WerdmullerB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mewsleah That’s probably true!

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                • Deb Nam-KraneD Deb Nam-Krane

                  @ben I don't have a fricking clue why people who claim to be all in for democracy and antifascism *choose* to put their information on Substack. I also don't understand why people need it proven--repeatedly--that Substack is a Nazi platform that has gotten *more* Nazi accounts since it was publicized that they hosted them. But here we are!

                  Good luck with the monetization, kids. (Spoiler: the scam has an expiration date, like all of the others.)

                  fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
                  fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @ben @dnkboston
                  One person who is an independent reporter didn't know anything about this, when I left a comment saying I was going to need to unsubscribe.

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                  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                    EllenJSE This user is from outside of this forum
                    EllenJSE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ben

                    @molly0xfff wrote this “How I Set Up on Ghost” guide: https://www.citationneeded.news/substack-to-self-hosted-ghost/

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                    • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

                      @ben @dnkboston
                      One person who is an independent reporter didn't know anything about this, when I left a comment saying I was going to need to unsubscribe.

                      Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                      Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @notyourfanboy That's incredible to me. It's pretty well-publicized, and isn't a journalist supposed to be up on the latest news? @ben

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                      • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                        @ben

                        For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                        Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                        Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @FediThing @ben ghost isn’t free as far as I see?

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                        • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @FediThing ah, ok. That isn’t clear on the website. Makes sense. @ben

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                          • Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                            Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @Jorsh Ding ding ding ding ding @notyourfanboy @ben

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                            • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                              Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @FediThing ❤ @ben

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                              • K Sarah A

                                @FediThing @ben I think I tried it on unohost. setting it up is a bit of a strugle, it seems worth it however.

                                Amir KhanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @ke7zum @FediThing @ben

                                @_elena might have some tips. She has some great guides and content for self hosting with #yonohost

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                                • Deb Nam-KraneD Deb Nam-Krane

                                  @notyourfanboy That's incredible to me. It's pretty well-publicized, and isn't a journalist supposed to be up on the latest news? @ben

                                  fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
                                  fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @ben @dnkboston
                                  Let me rephrase that.

                                  A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

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                                  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @ben I wonder what @MikeElgan thinks. He's still so bullish on Substack.

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                                    • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                      This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                      Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @ben This is the main reason why I don't pay for more subscriptions to Journalists that I want to support! They're on Substack. @MikeElgan is one of them. If he moved from Substack to Ghost, Beehiiv, I'd sub right away.

                                      Hear that Mike! 😃

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                                      • Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
                                        As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

                                        https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

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                                        • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

                                          @ben @dnkboston
                                          Let me rephrase that.

                                          A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

                                          Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @notyourfanboy But still.

                                          I always assume people should know what I do because I'm really not *that* well-informed. Nothing I know is a secret, I have no access to insider information on anything. So if I know about it, a journalist should, too. I feel comfortable saying that.

                                          @ben

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