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This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating.

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  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

    leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
    leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
    leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
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    @ben might be the first time it's been documented in a national newspaper though

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    • you wouldn't pool noodle a foxdragonK you wouldn't pool noodle a foxdragon

      @ben substack posters when you tell them they explicitly support nazis: "ohh but the chicken is so good tho"

      leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
      leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M This user is from outside of this forum
      leah & flutters & nose, oh my!
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      @kirakira @ben substack owners: ohh but Nazi money is just so good tho

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      • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

        This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

        gabby wheelsG This user is from outside of this forum
        gabby wheelsG This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ben Not just nazis but supports/inflates member counts, perhaps even funnels money to crunchy mom influencer accounts like Jessica Reed Kraus who worked through out 2034 to get Trump elected. Background on this is insidious. She's just a tool but what mechanisms behind the scenes enabled her at substack?

        https://www.reddit.com/r/HouseOnFire/

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        • leah & flutters & nose, oh my!M leah & flutters & nose, oh my!

          @ben might be the first time it's been documented in a national newspaper though

          Ben WerdmullerB This user is from outside of this forum
          Ben WerdmullerB This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mewsleah That’s probably true!

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          • Deb Nam-KraneD Deb Nam-Krane

            @ben I don't have a fricking clue why people who claim to be all in for democracy and antifascism *choose* to put their information on Substack. I also don't understand why people need it proven--repeatedly--that Substack is a Nazi platform that has gotten *more* Nazi accounts since it was publicized that they hosted them. But here we are!

            Good luck with the monetization, kids. (Spoiler: the scam has an expiration date, like all of the others.)

            fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
            fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ben @dnkboston
            One person who is an independent reporter didn't know anything about this, when I left a comment saying I was going to need to unsubscribe.

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            • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

              This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

              EllenJSE This user is from outside of this forum
              EllenJSE This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @ben

              @molly0xfff wrote this “How I Set Up on Ghost” guide: https://www.citationneeded.news/substack-to-self-hosted-ghost/

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              • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

                @ben @dnkboston
                One person who is an independent reporter didn't know anything about this, when I left a comment saying I was going to need to unsubscribe.

                Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @notyourfanboy That's incredible to me. It's pretty well-publicized, and isn't a journalist supposed to be up on the latest news? @ben

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                • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                  @ben

                  For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                  Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                  Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @FediThing @ben ghost isn’t free as far as I see?

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                  • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                    Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @FediThing ah, ok. That isn’t clear on the website. Makes sense. @ben

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                    • Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                      Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Jorsh Ding ding ding ding ding @notyourfanboy @ben

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                      • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                        Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @FediThing ❤ @ben

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                        • K Sarah A

                          @FediThing @ben I think I tried it on unohost. setting it up is a bit of a strugle, it seems worth it however.

                          Amir KhanA This user is from outside of this forum
                          Amir KhanA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @ke7zum @FediThing @ben

                          @_elena might have some tips. She has some great guides and content for self hosting with #yonohost

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                          • Deb Nam-KraneD Deb Nam-Krane

                            @notyourfanboy That's incredible to me. It's pretty well-publicized, and isn't a journalist supposed to be up on the latest news? @ben

                            fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
                            fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @ben @dnkboston
                            Let me rephrase that.

                            A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

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                            • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                              This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                              Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                              Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                              Seth of the Fediverse
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                              @ben I wonder what @MikeElgan thinks. He's still so bullish on Substack.

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                              • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                                Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                                Seth of the Fediverse
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                                @ben This is the main reason why I don't pay for more subscriptions to Journalists that I want to support! They're on Substack. @MikeElgan is one of them. If he moved from Substack to Ghost, Beehiiv, I'd sub right away.

                                Hear that Mike! 😃

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                                • Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
                                  As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

                                  https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

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                                  • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

                                    @ben @dnkboston
                                    Let me rephrase that.

                                    A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

                                    Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Deb Nam-Krane
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                                    @notyourfanboy But still.

                                    I always assume people should know what I do because I'm really not *that* well-informed. Nothing I know is a secret, I have no access to insider information on anything. So if I know about it, a journalist should, too. I feel comfortable saying that.

                                    @ben

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                                    • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                      This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                      Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Mx Amber Alex (she/it)
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                                      @ben Substack also, when Musk had just bought Twitter, posted that "anyone who has a problem with Musk's fight for free speech" need not apply for a job with them. They've made it quite clear where they stand.

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                                      • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                        This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                        Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @ben Oh it’s very well documented. I’ve catalog most of them here, but I’ve got many more to add https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/20250425/

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                                        • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                                          @ben

                                          For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                                          Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                                          Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @FediThing @ben WordPress is much easier, and there are thousands of people who can help you with it, plus thousands of themes.

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