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This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating.

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  • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
    Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
    Mieke Roth
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    #19

    @FediThing ah, ok. That isn’t clear on the website. Makes sense. @ben

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    • Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
      Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
      Deb Nam-Krane
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      #20

      @Jorsh Ding ding ding ding ding @notyourfanboy @ben

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      • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
        Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #21

        @FediThing ❤ @ben

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        • K Sarah A

          @FediThing @ben I think I tried it on unohost. setting it up is a bit of a strugle, it seems worth it however.

          Amir KhanA This user is from outside of this forum
          Amir KhanA This user is from outside of this forum
          Amir Khan
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          #22

          @ke7zum @FediThing @ben

          @_elena might have some tips. She has some great guides and content for self hosting with #yonohost

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          • Deb Nam-KraneD Deb Nam-Krane

            @notyourfanboy That's incredible to me. It's pretty well-publicized, and isn't a journalist supposed to be up on the latest news? @ben

            fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
            fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
            fan boy 🪭
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            #23

            @ben @dnkboston
            Let me rephrase that.

            A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

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            • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

              This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

              Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
              Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
              Seth of the Fediverse
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              #24

              @ben I wonder what @MikeElgan thinks. He's still so bullish on Substack.

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              • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                Seth of the Fediverse
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                #25

                @ben This is the main reason why I don't pay for more subscriptions to Journalists that I want to support! They're on Substack. @MikeElgan is one of them. If he moved from Substack to Ghost, Beehiiv, I'd sub right away.

                Hear that Mike! 😃

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                • Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
                  Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
                  As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

                  https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

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                  • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

                    @ben @dnkboston
                    Let me rephrase that.

                    A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

                    Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                    Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                    Deb Nam-Krane
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                    #27

                    @notyourfanboy But still.

                    I always assume people should know what I do because I'm really not *that* well-informed. Nothing I know is a secret, I have no access to insider information on anything. So if I know about it, a journalist should, too. I feel comfortable saying that.

                    @ben

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                    • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                      This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                      Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
                      Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
                      Mx Amber Alex (she/it)
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                      #28

                      @ben Substack also, when Musk had just bought Twitter, posted that "anyone who has a problem with Musk's fight for free speech" need not apply for a job with them. They've made it quite clear where they stand.

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                      • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                        This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                        Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
                        Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
                        Robert Kingett
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                        #29

                        @ben Oh it’s very well documented. I’ve catalog most of them here, but I’ve got many more to add https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/20250425/

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                        • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                          @ben

                          For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                          Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                          Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @FediThing @ben WordPress is much easier, and there are thousands of people who can help you with it, plus thousands of themes.

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                          • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                            @ben

                            For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                            Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                            Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                            Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                            Elena Brescacin
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                            @FediThing @tchambers @ben Ghost has still serious #accessibility issues. So, I have another alternative @buttondown which is not decentralized. But currently I'm even trying the email subscription of @writefreely - which can be self-hosted. Then, depends on how "sophisticated" needs users have.

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                            • Elena BrescacinE Elena Brescacin

                              @FediThing @tchambers @ben Ghost has still serious #accessibility issues. So, I have another alternative @buttondown which is not decentralized. But currently I'm even trying the email subscription of @writefreely - which can be self-hosted. Then, depends on how "sophisticated" needs users have.

                              KerfuffleK This user is from outside of this forum
                              KerfuffleK This user is from outside of this forum
                              Kerfuffle
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                              @elettrona @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely

                              Those are both registered in the US though, while Ghost's non-profit is registered in Singapore.

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                              • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                AlirezaA This user is from outside of this forum
                                AlirezaA This user is from outside of this forum
                                Alireza
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                                @ben @rbreich

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                                • Kim ScheinbergK Kim Scheinberg

                                  @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
                                  As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

                                  https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

                                  Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Mieke Roth
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                                  @kims @FediThing @ben @JuliusGoat thanks! Going read that

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                                  • KerfuffleK Kerfuffle

                                    @elettrona @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely

                                    Those are both registered in the US though, while Ghost's non-profit is registered in Singapore.

                                    Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Elena Brescacin
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                                    @kerfuffle @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely yes I know - ButtonDown is in the US. And centralized. That's why I'm going to try alternatives. I can't use ghost (tried to self-host it with no accessibility result) and now I'm self-hosting writefreely, while I'll try email subscriptions

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                                    • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                      This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                      Jeri DanskyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jeri DanskyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jeri Dansky
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                                      @ben Thanks for your comments and the link! I've just written to someone whose work I'd love to support — if it were on a different platform — and pointed them to the Guardian piece.

                                      I don't have much faith that it will help, but it can't hurt to ask him to please move.

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