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This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating.

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  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
    Seth of the Fediverse
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    @ben This is the main reason why I don't pay for more subscriptions to Journalists that I want to support! They're on Substack. @MikeElgan is one of them. If he moved from Substack to Ghost, Beehiiv, I'd sub right away.

    Hear that Mike! 😃

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    • Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
      Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
      As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

      https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

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      • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

        @ben @dnkboston
        Let me rephrase that.

        A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

        Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
        Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
        Deb Nam-Krane
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        #27

        @notyourfanboy But still.

        I always assume people should know what I do because I'm really not *that* well-informed. Nothing I know is a secret, I have no access to insider information on anything. So if I know about it, a journalist should, too. I feel comfortable saying that.

        @ben

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        • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

          This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

          Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
          Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
          Mx Amber Alex (she/it)
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          #28

          @ben Substack also, when Musk had just bought Twitter, posted that "anyone who has a problem with Musk's fight for free speech" need not apply for a job with them. They've made it quite clear where they stand.

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          • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

            This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

            Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
            Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
            Robert Kingett
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            @ben Oh it’s very well documented. I’ve catalog most of them here, but I’ve got many more to add https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/20250425/

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            • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

              @ben

              For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

              Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

              Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
              Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
              Matthew Sheffield
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              #30

              @FediThing @ben WordPress is much easier, and there are thousands of people who can help you with it, plus thousands of themes.

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              • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                @ben

                For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                Elena Brescacin
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                #31

                @FediThing @tchambers @ben Ghost has still serious #accessibility issues. So, I have another alternative @buttondown which is not decentralized. But currently I'm even trying the email subscription of @writefreely - which can be self-hosted. Then, depends on how "sophisticated" needs users have.

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                • Elena BrescacinE Elena Brescacin

                  @FediThing @tchambers @ben Ghost has still serious #accessibility issues. So, I have another alternative @buttondown which is not decentralized. But currently I'm even trying the email subscription of @writefreely - which can be self-hosted. Then, depends on how "sophisticated" needs users have.

                  KerfuffleK This user is from outside of this forum
                  KerfuffleK This user is from outside of this forum
                  Kerfuffle
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                  #32

                  @elettrona @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely

                  Those are both registered in the US though, while Ghost's non-profit is registered in Singapore.

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                  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                    AlirezaA This user is from outside of this forum
                    AlirezaA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ben @rbreich

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                    • Kim ScheinbergK Kim Scheinberg

                      @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
                      As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

                      https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

                      Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Mieke Roth
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                      #34

                      @kims @FediThing @ben @JuliusGoat thanks! Going read that

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                      • KerfuffleK Kerfuffle

                        @elettrona @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely

                        Those are both registered in the US though, while Ghost's non-profit is registered in Singapore.

                        Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                        Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                        Elena Brescacin
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                        #35

                        @kerfuffle @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely yes I know - ButtonDown is in the US. And centralized. That's why I'm going to try alternatives. I can't use ghost (tried to self-host it with no accessibility result) and now I'm self-hosting writefreely, while I'll try email subscriptions

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                        • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                          This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                          Jeri DanskyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jeri DanskyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                          Jeri Dansky
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                          @ben Thanks for your comments and the link! I've just written to someone whose work I'd love to support — if it were on a different platform — and pointed them to the Guardian piece.

                          I don't have much faith that it will help, but it can't hurt to ask him to please move.

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