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  3. We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

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  • Григорий КлюшниковG Григорий Клюшников

    I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

    Gosh I miss the old internet.

    EricE This user is from outside of this forum
    EricE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #43

    @grishka "for the children" /s

    It's because they want to know who you are, and they want to be able to attribute you to other services where this identity is known to build out their web of surveillance.

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    • Lutin DiscretL Lutin Discret

      Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

      @Gargron

      Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:A This user is from outside of this forum
      Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:A This user is from outside of this forum
      Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:
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      #44

      @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

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      • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

        We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

        Ilka 🌐I This user is from outside of this forum
        Ilka 🌐I This user is from outside of this forum
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        @Gargron I guess I won't be able to call Felon 47 a brown bag full of manure anymore then.

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        • Lutin DiscretL Lutin Discret

          Reminder to anyone managing a #ActivityPub project that matrix has been adopted as the chat solution by bookwyrm, write.as, friendica, plume, pleroma, fedilab, funkwhale, mitra, forgefed, mobilizon, phanpy, tokodon, moshidon, lemmy, gotosocial, bonfire, voyager, tusky, lemmy, loops, piefed, pixelfed, manyfold, owncast and others. You don't need to start from scratch if you leave discord : join us on matrix!

          @Gargron

          Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
          Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

          #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

          BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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          • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

            Thomas TraynorT This user is from outside of this forum
            Thomas TraynorT This user is from outside of this forum
            Thomas Traynor
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            #47

            @Gargron I have an account, but haven't used it in a while. When I get told to do that I will respond with a full middle finger scan and a suggestion where they can stick it.

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            • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

              AT HayesA This user is from outside of this forum
              AT HayesA This user is from outside of this forum
              AT Hayes
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              #48

              @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

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              • Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:A Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:

                @lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

                Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
                Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #49

                @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

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                • AT HayesA AT Hayes

                  @Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

                  SamS This user is from outside of this forum
                  SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #50

                  @athayes@mas.to @Gargron@mastodon.social It shouldn't but it does give them access to scan and look through more posts especially media, we've had it in the UK for a while now and we've had data leaks and lots of problems with this system, highly suggest finding a new place.

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                  • Owl EyesD Owl Eyes

                    @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

                    Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:A This user is from outside of this forum
                    Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:A This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #51

                    @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

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                    • Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:A Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:

                      @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

                      Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
                      Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron oh really? Didn't know... thanks

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                      • KerfuffleK Kerfuffle

                        @Gargron Selfhosted or in the (US) Zulip cloud?

                        Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                        Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                        Carlos Solís
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                        #53
                        @kerfuffle @Gargron Good question - and if the latter, how easy is it to export everything to a sovereign solution down the line?
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                        • Григорий КлюшниковG Григорий Клюшников

                          I don't understand why all centralized services suddenly insist on actually verifying their users' age for real. What was wrong with asking for a birth date or even just presenting a "yes I'm 18 or older" button? NSFW websites somehow still do just fine with that, but Discord, which is much less "risky" in comparison, somehow needs real verification?

                          Gosh I miss the old internet.

                          Darwin WoodkaD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Darwin WoodkaD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Darwin Woodka
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                          #54

                          @grishka @Gargron

                          It's going to kill them with the gaming community. Absolutely kill them.

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                          • Rachel RawlingsL Rachel Rawlings

                            @Gargron I quit a writing group on Discord years ago when I noticed it was broadcasting every time I opened a game in steam, and wondered what other things it was spying on.

                            Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Owl Eyes
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                            #55

                            @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                            #infosec

                            Discord, fuck you

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                            • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                              We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                              joene extraJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              joene extraJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              joene extra
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                              #56

                              @Gargron Finally!

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                              • Owl EyesD Owl Eyes

                                @linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

                                #infosec

                                Discord, fuck you

                                Rachel RawlingsL This user is from outside of this forum
                                Rachel RawlingsL This user is from outside of this forum
                                Rachel Rawlings
                                wrote last edited by
                                #57

                                @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

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                                • Rachel RawlingsL Rachel Rawlings

                                  @d1 @Gargron Hm, now I wonder if this is why my wife's Windows laptop woke me at 4am a couple weeks ago. I thought it was just a side effect of patch Tuesday.

                                  Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Owl EyesD This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Owl Eyes
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                                  #58

                                  @linuxandyarn @Gargron It was a #linux install of #Discord in my case, just saying.

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                                  • Owl EyesD Owl Eyes

                                    @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

                                    #Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord. 👍

                                    BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

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                                    ahoyboyhoy
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                                    #59

                                    @d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 FWIW Zulip cloud offers free hosting for communities that qualify.

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                                    • Eugen RochkoG Eugen Rochko

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community. The harder part will be untangling my gaming communities from this…

                                      Helena BA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Helena BA This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Helena B
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                                      #60

                                      @Gargron I get that Discord has a major pedophile problem, but privacy is also important.

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                                      • Helena BA Helena B

                                        @Gargron I get that Discord has a major pedophile problem, but privacy is also important.

                                        SamS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        SamS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Sam
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                                        #61

                                        @amazing_helenab@mastodon.social This is why people should look at moving, why should our privacy be taken away just because of some countries like the UK with there Online Safety Act removing our Privacy for data collecting hidden as protecting children

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                                        • Andy L.A Andy L.

                                          @Gargron Isn't there a non-corporate solution?

                                          There's more than a little unfortunate irony in the Mastodon team jumping ship from Discord to another corporate provider that just hasn't entered its enshitification phase yet.

                                          tshepangT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          tshepang
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #62

                                          @apLundell does corporate mean the project is controlled by a company

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