We’ve moved our internal communications from Discord to Zulip at Mastodon, and I think there are plans to do the same for our Patreon community.

ahoyboyhoy

@pounce @Gargron better to plug xmpp I'd say, open internet standard with a much healthier ecosystem. No shade to IRC, many great communities there that I engage with via bridge.

ahoyboyhoy

@targrus @Gargron I'm standing up a Zulip right now, so I'm happy to see others choose it as well.

pounce

@incentive@mastodon.circlewithadot.net @Gargron@mastodon.social
https://ircv3.net/ has some good information, but to name a few i don't think many people know about:

persistent history (now integrated into several ircds and most clients)
seamless image/file upload from the app
multi-line and -paragraph messages
utf-8
typing indicators
proper replies
emoji reactions
in-app registration
account profile pictures / descriptions / display names

weed stallman :gnu:

@pounce @Gargron Thanks. Got some learning to do today.

I still use IRC off-and-on but never kept up with protocol updates. Plus I use Polari on Gnome so I'm guessing they have restricted a lot of these features for the sake of minimalism.

Carlos Solís

@Gargron I'm surprised that you hadn't yet gone full libre in regards to your infrastructure. This also means you should reconsider moving out of Github for releases in the near future.

Kerfuffle

@Gargron Selfhosted or in the (US) Zulip cloud?

Eric

@lefteristrip23 Far from 1:1 feature parity. No integrated voice or video in most implementations (leveraging Jitsi or something similar in many cases) is a big knock against Matrix.

Eric

@grishka "for the children" /s

It's because they want to know who you are, and they want to be able to attribute you to other services where this identity is known to build out their web of surveillance.

Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:

@lutindiscret @Gargron I wish Matrix worked at all

Ilka 🌐

@Gargron I guess I won't be able to call Felon 47 a brown bag full of manure anymore then.

Owl Eyes

@lutindiscret @Gargron @lefteristrip23 I beg of you: not #Matrix, for anything persisting and serious *when it comes to group chat*. Has a history of exploding chat rooms, every few years or so. Track record is not good.

#Zulip is today's much more sane choice, as a place to escape to, fleeing #Discord.

BTW: I'm willing to set up/maintain Zulip servers, *but for a price*.

Thomas Traynor

@Gargron I have an account, but haven't used it in a while. When I get told to do that I will respond with a full middle finger scan and a suggestion where they can stick it.

AT Hayes

@Gargron Will it affect anything other than NSFW tagging?

Owl Eyes

@autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron with #Matrix, one-one-one chat is decent; it's just the group chats which have a poor track record of reliability over the years.

Sam

@athayes@mas.to @Gargron@mastodon.social It shouldn't but it does give them access to scan and look through more posts especially media, we've had it in the UK for a while now and we've had data leaks and lots of problems with this system, highly suggest finding a new place.

Au Ti Va Volade :v_enby:

@d1 @lutindiscret @Gargron My one on one usually get's messages lost.

Owl Eyes

@autisticplushy @lutindiscret @Gargron oh really? Didn't know... thanks

Carlos Solís

@kerfuffle @Gargron Good question - and if the latter, how easy is it to export everything to a sovereign solution down the line?

Darwin Woodka

@grishka @Gargron

It's going to kill them with the gaming community. Absolutely kill them.

Owl Eyes

@linuxandyarn @Gargron I also caught Discord spying on a laptop of mine - while in sleep mode, in the middle of the night, Discord kept a laptop awake, churning hard. I heard the laptop fan whirring in the middle of the night, when it should have been silent. I determined it was #Discord, and uninstalled that motherfucker immediately. This was several years ago.

#infosec

Discord, fuck you