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Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full?

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  • RonaldB Ronald

    @FediTips @gotofritz

    I have to disagree with you, Fedi...

    The most common definition of an algorithm is: a finite, step-by-step sequence of precise instructions for solving a problem or accomplishing a specific task.

    You use a very small subset of "most people" and take that as your definition of most people and then couple that to what you think most people mean when using the word.

    Are you spreading misinformation?

    It depends: if you are deliberately creating or spreading it in order to deceive people, to influence opinion or cause harm, the answer would be yes.

    If that is not the case, then at the very least, your information is incomplete, even in the context of Mastodon.

    If your intention is to convince people about how and why Mastodon is better than other platforms, you have to be precise.

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    @BlameDutchie @gotofritz

    "The most common definition of an algorithm is: a finite, step-by-step sequence of precise instructions"

    I'm not talking about a technical dictionary definition, I mean the way non-technical people actually use that word in the real world.

    They'll typically say something like "the algorithm is showing me stuff" or "the algorithm has hidden my post".

    My accounts and websites are largely aimed at non-technical people, so I try to use non-technical meanings and words.

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    • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

      @FinchHaven

      Are you attempting to use translate on a different server's website?

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      @FediTips

      I am attemting to translate using the Translate text at the bottom of given post

      Again my instance uses LibreTranslate

      Sometimes I'll click through to the post on the origin instance and try there

      Sometimes (when I have a lot of time to waste and I'm in a better mood) I'll open up the instances

      /public/local

      and see

      1) if they have any posts in anything other than their native language, and

      2) do they seem to offer any translation at all

      And here's the core point:

      how much effort should I be expected to expand, to translate a foreign / European/ German post just to read something that ends up being extremely mundane

      And how much finite screen space am I expected to give to posts / posters I'll never be able to translate and read?

      I've already Muted and Blocked two in the last 15 minutes...

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      • FinchHaven sfbaF FinchHaven sfba

        @FediTips

        I am attemting to translate using the Translate text at the bottom of given post

        Again my instance uses LibreTranslate

        Sometimes I'll click through to the post on the origin instance and try there

        Sometimes (when I have a lot of time to waste and I'm in a better mood) I'll open up the instances

        /public/local

        and see

        1) if they have any posts in anything other than their native language, and

        2) do they seem to offer any translation at all

        And here's the core point:

        how much effort should I be expected to expand, to translate a foreign / European/ German post just to read something that ends up being extremely mundane

        And how much finite screen space am I expected to give to posts / posters I'll never be able to translate and read?

        I've already Muted and Blocked two in the last 15 minutes...

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        #21

        @FinchHaven

        Are you seeing a "translate" button below remote posts you are viewing within your own instance's website?

        If you are, what happens when you click it? (Not on the origin instance but when viewed within your own instance's interface.)

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        • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

          @BlameDutchie @gotofritz

          "The most common definition of an algorithm is: a finite, step-by-step sequence of precise instructions"

          I'm not talking about a technical dictionary definition, I mean the way non-technical people actually use that word in the real world.

          They'll typically say something like "the algorithm is showing me stuff" or "the algorithm has hidden my post".

          My accounts and websites are largely aimed at non-technical people, so I try to use non-technical meanings and words.

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          #22

          @FediTips @BlameDutchie

          You just repeat the same thing over and over. You have arbitrarily decided what "most people" mean and you have decided what are the words one should use with "them" and you have no intention of even contemplating you may have got it wrong. Waste of time talking to you

          Btw, I don't follow you, your posts keep turning up in my feed because the fediverse algorithm is pushing them into my feed

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          • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

            @FinchHaven

            Are you seeing a "translate" button below remote posts you are viewing within your own instance's website?

            If you are, what happens when you click it? (Not on the origin instance but when viewed within your own instance's interface.)

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            #23

            @FediTips

            JFC...

            I have four tabs open, Firefox web browser on Ubuntu, to my home instance

            /home

            /public/local

            my Lists

            and my Profile home

            I'm on my /home tab viewing posts

            I am looking for and using the Translate tag at the lower left of a given post

            Do you need a screenshot to understand what I'm saying?

            Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

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            • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

              @BlameDutchie @gotofritz

              "The most common definition of an algorithm is: a finite, step-by-step sequence of precise instructions"

              I'm not talking about a technical dictionary definition, I mean the way non-technical people actually use that word in the real world.

              They'll typically say something like "the algorithm is showing me stuff" or "the algorithm has hidden my post".

              My accounts and websites are largely aimed at non-technical people, so I try to use non-technical meanings and words.

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              #24

              @FediTips @gotofritz

              I agree with Fritz... You are not even willing to consider you could do better.

              So be it. I have better things to do than trying to convince someone he is writing like an AI.

              Cheers.

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              • FinchHaven sfbaF FinchHaven sfba

                @FediTips

                JFC...

                I have four tabs open, Firefox web browser on Ubuntu, to my home instance

                /home

                /public/local

                my Lists

                and my Profile home

                I'm on my /home tab viewing posts

                I am looking for and using the Translate tag at the lower left of a given post

                Do you need a screenshot to understand what I'm saying?

                Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?

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                #25

                @FinchHaven

                "Or do you think I don't know what I'm talking about?"

                Absolutely not! I am the one who doesn't understand, I am trying to get a better picture of what is going on by asking for details ๐Ÿ™‚

                I'm trying to help.

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                • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                  Is your Mastodon timeline too empty or too full? Are you seeing too much of one thing while missing important posts? Is your timeline overwhelmed by someone who shares too many posts?

                  These and lots more timeline problems are solved in the "How to customise your Mastodon timeline" guide:

                  โžก๏ธ https://fedi.tips/does-mastodon-and-the-fediverse-use-algorithms-does-it-start-pushing-stuff-at-me-based-on-my-interactions

                  #FediTips #Mastodon

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #26

                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                  • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                    p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                    Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                    If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                    #27

                    @FediTips there is no pleasing those both humorless and in terminal thrall of Dunning Kruger. Just block, move on.

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                    • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                      #28

                      @FediTips that sounds exactly like mastodon

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                      • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                        p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                        Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                        If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                        #29

                        @FediTips I am sending more kofi money

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                        • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                          #30

                          @FediTips You are doing an excellent job. Don't let them get to you.

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                          • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                            p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                            Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                            If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                            #31

                            @FediTips asks "Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly?"

                            I highly recommend that.

                            Always.

                            But also particularly when somebody is trying to help without compensation, just for the sake of the community.

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                            • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                              p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                              Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                              If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                              #32

                              @FediTips Ugh, some people just need to chill. I think you're doing fine.

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                                @FediTips I am sending more kofi money

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                                #33

                                @FediTips Perhaps a positive reinforcement will outweigh the negative one you just got

                                Thank you for what you do.

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                                • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                                  p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                  Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                  If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                  #34

                                  @FediTips I just glanced through the article to see how you were using the word. You even explained how you were using it and why while acknowledging that other meanings exist. I would give that an A+ for communication. I'm sorry someone decided to be mean to you. I hope one day they learn to chill out and help people instead.

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                                    @Arthfach @FediTips
                                    Sorted in chronological order is absolutely an algorithm.

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                                    • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                                      p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                      Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                      If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                      #36

                                      @FediTips chill buddy please. Just donยดt let it get to you.
                                      Iยดm critizising a lot about this platform but never personal. There is potential lost here, thatยดs true imho.
                                      Donยดt let that get on a personal level, please

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                                        #37

                                        @Arthfach @FediTips Agree 500 Trump percents. You ARE doing a great job. Ignore the pestilence.

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                                        • Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„F Fedi.Tips ๐ŸŽ„

                                          p.s. Good grief. I'm trying to help people use this place and just got accused of "disinformation" and "causing harm" because they didn't like the way I used the word algorithm in the guide.

                                          Can we please chill out and be a bit more friendly? The Fedi relies on volunteers helping each other and making suggestions in a constructive way.

                                          If I've done something wrong it is brilliant if you point it out, most of the guides rely on people correcting me. But there is no need for personal attacks.

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                                          #38

                                          @FediTips this thread is providing good blocklist fodder. Lotta pendants showing their arses today.

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