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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive.

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  • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C This user is from outside of this forum
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    Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

    https://signal.org/download/

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      Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

      https://signal.org/download/

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      Signal is the second worst chat you can pick spyrecord is first. The only encryption you can trust by reading the code is Simplex. However the app ain't ready yet. Issues won't be worked out till 2027. ArcaneChat on the other hand is more then enough security wise for almost everyone.
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      • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

        Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

        https://signal.org/download/

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        @cassidy Google Play Service is required for RCS support on Android, so if you don't have that on your Android phone like me, then you should be using Signal.

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          @cassidy Google Play Service is required for RCS support on Android, so if you don't have that on your Android phone like me, then you should be using Signal.

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          @korbs yep, another good reason!

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          • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

            Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

            https://signal.org/download/

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            @cassidy also a reminder: you can set your messages to auto delete /self destruct. Probably be a good idea.

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            • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

              Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

              https://signal.org/download/

              Misuse CaseM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cassidy Apple Messages *does* have end-to-end encryption but only if you enable Advanced Data Protection and the other parties in the conversation have it enabled too.

              Signal, though, just does the thing.

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              • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                https://signal.org/download/

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                @cassidy see https://matrix.org #matrix #messaging #decentralised #communication

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                • HeliographH Heliograph

                  @cassidy see https://matrix.org #matrix #messaging #decentralised #communication

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                  @Heliograph I'm well aware of and active on Matrix. I also would not recommend it over Signal for general individual/local community communications at this point as the complexity and learning curve are much, much higher.

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                  • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                    @Heliograph I'm well aware of and active on Matrix. I also would not recommend it over Signal for general individual/local community communications at this point as the complexity and learning curve are much, much higher.

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                    @cassidy no worries just wanted to have mentioned it

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                    • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                      Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                      https://signal.org/download/

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                      @cassidy not perfect, but its pretty good (TM). Talking about "pretty good", I strongly recommend reading Signals creator article about PGP called 'PGP and me'. On another note, last time I checked (December), Signal (and by extension [or the other way around]), Whatsapp, have a 'vulnerability' that allows users to pretty much just check if you are using your phone.

                      https://github.com/gommzystudio/device-activity-tracker

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                      • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                        Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                        https://signal.org/download/

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                        @cassidy@blaede.family @motoridersd@pug.ninja Not all RCS implementations on Android are E2EE, either. RCS encryption on Android Messages is specific to Google extensions and their own servers. Device manufacturers that don't ship Google's version of the messaging app (yet still support RCS) don't get encryption, either.
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                        • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

                          @cassidy Apple Messages *does* have end-to-end encryption but only if you enable Advanced Data Protection and the other parties in the conversation have it enabled too.

                          Signal, though, just does the thing.

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                          @MisuseCase @cassidy remember that certain countries (*cough* UK *cough*) don't permit Advanced Data Protection, so that's not an option for everyone, depending who you might be sending information to.

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                            @cassidy@blaede.family @motoridersd@pug.ninja Not all RCS implementations on Android are E2EE, either. RCS encryption on Android Messages is specific to Google extensions and their own servers. Device manufacturers that don't ship Google's version of the messaging app (yet still support RCS) don't get encryption, either.
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                            @robert @cassidy @motoridersd yep - the E2EE spec for RCS is new as of last year (despite the many years of vague claims about RCS E2EE support) and AFAICT *nothing* handles that spec yet: https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/gsma_resources/gsma-rcs-universal-profile-3-0-specifications/

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                            • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                              Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                              https://signal.org/download/

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                              @cassidy

                              Apple users using the Messages app defaults to iMessage with other iPhone users, which is end-to-end encrypted.

                              Signal is still much better than iMessage tho, so your point stands.

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                              • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                                @Heliograph I'm well aware of and active on Matrix. I also would not recommend it over Signal for general individual/local community communications at this point as the complexity and learning curve are much, much higher.

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                                @cassidy @Heliograph why? What do you see as difficult about using Element X?

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                                • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                                  Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                                  https://signal.org/download/

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                                  @cassidy instead of Signal, #DeltaChat is a much better alternative, super easy to use while decentralized, without requiring phone numbers or any private data at all, with good multi-device and multi-profile support (you can have as many profiles as you want without needing extra SIM cards, this makes it good for the kids of the family as well!)

                                  https://fosstodon.org/@arcanechat/115952631114870780

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                                  • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                                    Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                                    https://signal.org/download/

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                                    @cassidy or better use @delta or any other decentralized app that also is E2EE.

                                    Because signal run on AWS (Amazon), Azure (Microslop), And the one from google.

                                    So the Orange pedophile can call his billionaire friend and shut down Signal at a moment notice.

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                                    • HeliographH Heliograph

                                      @cassidy see https://matrix.org #matrix #messaging #decentralised #communication

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                                      @Heliograph @cassidy matrix is filled with security issue and privacy leak

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                                        @cassidy @Heliograph why? What do you see as difficult about using Element X?

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                                        @apex @cassidy @Heliograph the issue of matrix is all the design flaw that nullify the "privacy" or "security" like the group not encrypted for instance.

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                                        • craignicolC craignicol

                                          @MisuseCase @cassidy remember that certain countries (*cough* UK *cough*) don't permit Advanced Data Protection, so that's not an option for everyone, depending who you might be sending information to.

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                                          @craignicol @cassidy I know. For that and other reasons, Signal is more dependable. Although I do like that Apple couldn’t give my iCloud data to the feds even if it wanted to.

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