Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive.
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
@cassidy also a reminder: you can set your messages to auto delete /self destruct. Probably be a good idea.
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
@cassidy Apple Messages *does* have end-to-end encryption but only if you enable Advanced Data Protection and the other parties in the conversation have it enabled too.
Signal, though, just does the thing.
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
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@Heliograph I'm well aware of and active on Matrix. I also would not recommend it over Signal for general individual/local community communications at this point as the complexity and learning curve are much, much higher.
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@Heliograph I'm well aware of and active on Matrix. I also would not recommend it over Signal for general individual/local community communications at this point as the complexity and learning curve are much, much higher.
@cassidy no worries just wanted to have mentioned it
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
@cassidy not perfect, but its pretty good (TM). Talking about "pretty good", I strongly recommend reading Signals creator article about PGP called 'PGP and me'. On another note, last time I checked (December), Signal (and by extension [or the other way around]), Whatsapp, have a 'vulnerability' that allows users to pretty much just check if you are using your phone.
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
@cassidy@blaede.family @motoridersd@pug.ninja Not all RCS implementations on Android are E2EE, either. RCS encryption on Android Messages is specific to Google extensions and their own servers. Device manufacturers that don't ship Google's version of the messaging app (yet still support RCS) don't get encryption, either.
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@cassidy Apple Messages *does* have end-to-end encryption but only if you enable Advanced Data Protection and the other parties in the conversation have it enabled too.
Signal, though, just does the thing.
@MisuseCase @cassidy remember that certain countries (*cough* UK *cough*) don't permit Advanced Data Protection, so that's not an option for everyone, depending who you might be sending information to.
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@cassidy@blaede.family @motoridersd@pug.ninja Not all RCS implementations on Android are E2EE, either. RCS encryption on Android Messages is specific to Google extensions and their own servers. Device manufacturers that don't ship Google's version of the messaging app (yet still support RCS) don't get encryption, either.
@robert @cassidy @motoridersd yep - the E2EE spec for RCS is new as of last year (despite the many years of vague claims about RCS E2EE support) and AFAICT *nothing* handles that spec yet: https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/gsma_resources/gsma-rcs-universal-profile-3-0-specifications/
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
Apple users using the Messages app defaults to iMessage with other iPhone users, which is end-to-end encrypted.
Signal is still much better than iMessage tho, so your point stands.
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@Heliograph I'm well aware of and active on Matrix. I also would not recommend it over Signal for general individual/local community communications at this point as the complexity and learning curve are much, much higher.
@cassidy @Heliograph why? What do you see as difficult about using Element X?
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
@cassidy instead of Signal, #DeltaChat is a much better alternative, super easy to use while decentralized, without requiring phone numbers or any private data at all, with good multi-device and multi-profile support (you can have as many profiles as you want without needing extra SIM cards, this makes it good for the kids of the family as well!)
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
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@Heliograph @cassidy matrix is filled with security issue and privacy leak
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@cassidy @Heliograph why? What do you see as difficult about using Element X?
@apex @cassidy @Heliograph the issue of matrix is all the design flaw that nullify the "privacy" or "security" like the group not encrypted for instance.
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@MisuseCase @cassidy remember that certain countries (*cough* UK *cough*) don't permit Advanced Data Protection, so that's not an option for everyone, depending who you might be sending information to.
@craignicol @cassidy I know. For that and other reasons, Signal is more dependable. Although I do like that Apple couldn’t give my iCloud data to the feds even if it wanted to.
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@lexinova @cassidy @delta
And if you still want try Signal but your phone is too old, you can use Molly.
Molly is available on Fdroid after you added the repository : https://molly.imI prefer XMPP. There is plenty of clients on desktop. On smartphone you can use Conversation or Cheogram, available on Fdroid.
Fdroid? https://fdroid.org with many good FOSS app
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@lexinova @cassidy @delta
And if you still want try Signal but your phone is too old, you can use Molly.
Molly is available on Fdroid after you added the repository : https://molly.imI prefer XMPP. There is plenty of clients on desktop. On smartphone you can use Conversation or Cheogram, available on Fdroid.
Fdroid? https://fdroid.org with many good FOSS app
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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.
@cassidy There is a lot of dangerous advice here for the assumed target audience. I'd recommend reading https://soatok.blog/2024/07/31/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-signal-competitor/ for those barging in with messenger recommendations.
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