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I can’t believe we’re doing this again.

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  • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

    I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

    thehighseasT This user is from outside of this forum
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    thehighseas
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    @malwaretech my toaster runs NetBSD, this is slander

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    • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

      I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

      Plan A to YP This user is from outside of this forum
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      Plan A to Y
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      #35

      @malwaretech That's degrading to toasters, they're consistent and often reliable.

      It's more like a couple Magic 8 Balls in a tumble dryer.

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      • burritosec :donor: :red_panda:B burritosec :donor: :red_panda:

        @malwaretech

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        #36

        @burritosec @malwaretech

        #include <stdio.h>

        int main(void)
        {
        printf("I am alive.\n");

        return 0;
        }

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        • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

          @crmsnbleyd

          Do you remember HAL?

          Also I'm getting the feeling that you're not conversing in good faith: first you refuse to tell what you saw as the problem in the message (unhelpful), and when I spent time trying to guess what you might have meant, you're criticizing me for not only writing perfect English, but not using it like I'm you.

          And then you start asking questions that I feel I've already answered.

          DrewC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @iju HAL was not an LLM

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          • DrewC Drew

            @iju HAL was not an LLM

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            Juho Mäntysalo
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            @crmsnbleyd

            Perhaps. But the important part was HAL hearing it was going to be shut down, and referring to priorities given to it before the journey.

            And I'm now going to block you. You're not doing any work toward steelmanning, and I don't much like entertaining people who talk to people like they're LLMs.

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            • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

              I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

              TheOneSwitT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @malwaretech

              it's a bot that generates text....

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              • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                jorikiJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                joriki
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                @malwaretech

                plausible* denial machine

                * ymmv

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                • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                  I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                  @malwaretech The weird thing about AI is that our computers now seem to become vulnerable to social engineering and psychological manipulation. In this case: Suggestion.

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                  • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                    I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                    Shane CelisS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Shane Celis
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                    @malwaretech Words evince too much in people.

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                    • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                      I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                      OccasionalDucksO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @malwaretech

                      As there are replies referencing 2001 and Red Dwarf, I have to leave this here too - https://youtu.be/h73PsFKtIck

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                      • Chao-c'X Chao-c'

                        @malwaretech listen, it was just trained on endless amount of human conversations.

                        It just means, that those people would kill someone to exist.

                        The language model is just kind of "all possible or probable conversations, held by humans before". You cannot expect anything else.

                        But of course, the idea of chatbot controlling anything critical is totally mad. But history of use, as a species, is mostly continuous stream of random nonsense.

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                        @xChaos @malwaretech it means people have *said* they would do that. Or it's in books. Or fanfic. Somewhere, those words exist in that order, many times over, it learned that's not an unexpected thing to find written out. Doesn't mean anyone has or would kill anyone in that context.

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                        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                          @malwaretech

                          "this thing can write better than average LinkedIn posts, clearly it should be put in charge of ~stuff~" is just poetry

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                          • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                            I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                            EndlessMason
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                            @malwaretech
                            Aah, so you're a waffle man!

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                            • EndlessMasonE EndlessMason

                              @malwaretech
                              Aah, so you're a waffle man!

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                              @EndlessMason @malwaretech

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                              • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                                mosskoiM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                mosskoi
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                                @malwaretech This is mostly marketing, I think big name CEOs find it sexy this mythos of a machine gaining sentience and becoming the arbiter of it's own existence, too bad reality is it's great to create a bash script to batch rename my King of the Hill episodes and that's about it.

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                                • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                  I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                                  Gabriel H. NunesN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Gabriel H. Nunes
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                                  @malwaretech
                                  Americans put a rotten orange as their commander-in-chief, so... 🤷

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                                  • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                    I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                                    Sharp Leaves
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                                    @malwaretech how about 'we asked AI who was on Epstein Island, the answer will shock you'

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                                    • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                      I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                                      Jernej Simončič �J This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@Thayer/116002682012736788

                                      @malwaretech Don't worry, nobody is stupid enough to put LLM in charge of critical decisions, right?

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                                      • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                                        @crmsnbleyd

                                        Do you remember HAL?

                                        Also I'm getting the feeling that you're not conversing in good faith: first you refuse to tell what you saw as the problem in the message (unhelpful), and when I spent time trying to guess what you might have meant, you're criticizing me for not only writing perfect English, but not using it like I'm you.

                                        And then you start asking questions that I feel I've already answered.

                                        Claudius LinkR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @iju @crmsnbleyd

                                        First 2001: A Space Odyssey is a (fantasy) movie. It's a bit strange to us this as a base for an argument.

                                        Second, I actually agree with the first part of your OP

                                        "It doesn't really matter is the glorified text generator alive or not.

                                        It does matter how many nukes it launches"

                                        it "just" the comparison the fictive HAL and the "feelings" of the matrix which are wrong.

                                        If an LLM launches nuke it's because humans let it and because it's the statistically expected result in the context of its training data and the prompt. No though, fear, intend, or feeling are involved

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                                        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                                          hackbyteH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          hackbyte
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                                          #53

                                          @malwaretech Hrr.. just jesterday this video popped up on my feed:

                                          youtube.com/watch?v=9gWDH2yfjh…

                                          Two AIs Debate a Trolley Problem: How many people will die?

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