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I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

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  • River CrowT River Crow

    I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

    New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

    It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

    James BrittJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    @therivercrow

    This is the US TOS on the tiktok site. But I can't find the passage in that screenshot.

    https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/us/terms-of-service/en

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    • River CrowT River Crow

      I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

      New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

      It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

      marP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @therivercrow I mean, it does specifically say it collects that information *if the user provides it*.. i.e. in a video they’ve made. I always assumed they were collecting that tbh. It recommends videos based on the ones you’ve already watched so it has to know something about the content of that video. IMO this isn’t really new it’s just more explicit.

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        @pthenq1@mastodon.la @therivercrow@bardicperspiration.club https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/us/privacy-policy/en

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          @pthenq1@mastodon.la @therivercrow@bardicperspiration.club https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/us/privacy-policy/en

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          @pthenq1@mastodon.la @therivercrow@bardicperspiration.club It is a bit more complicated

          Information You Provide may include sensitive personal information, as defined under applicable state privacy laws, such as information from users under the relevant age threshold, information you disclose in survey responses or in your user content about your racial or ethnic origin, national origin, religious beliefs, mental or physical health diagnosis, sexual life or sexual orientation, status as transgender or nonbinary, citizenship or immigration status, or financial information.

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          • River CrowT River Crow

            I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

            New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

            It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

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            #15
            @therivercrow and the worst part? noone will care. noone will give a shit. billions will continue to use this app as normal. horrifying
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            • River CrowT River Crow

              I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

              New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

              It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

              EthanW This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @therivercrow its been a surveillance tool the entire time just depends om who was doing the spying but 100% agree that's crazy.

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              • River CrowT River Crow

                I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

                TimonT This user is from outside of this forum
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                Timon
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                #17

                @therivercrow holy shit.

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                • River CrowT River Crow

                  I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                  New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                  It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

                  caitpC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #18

                  @therivercrow It's not that you are wrong, but I think all these data brokers know everything there is to know about all of us, and it would be trivial for them to create lists of undesirables when they decide to, and no deleting a single all will change that.

                  hopefully thats just doomerism and not quite true, but idk

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                  • River CrowT River Crow

                    I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                    New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                    It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

                    Brad MacphersonB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #19

                    @therivercrow Quick, get the barn door!

                    They already have all that shit, do you really expect that (lack of) words on an electronic document have stopped them?

                    No reason to not delete now though, of course. Better late than never, I guess. Just make sure there aren't any other apps ... or operating systems ... or hardware ... that are surveilling you, if it's a concern.

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                    • River CrowT River Crow

                      I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                      New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                      It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

                      Joscelyn TranspiringJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @therivercrow to be fair in a way, almost all the corporate social media tracks this at least indirectly (still hilarious when they started advertising trans color thigh high socks to me πŸ˜…)…so, really just as bad as the others. I suspect they were probably tracking this before within their algorithms too though, weren’t they?

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                      • River CrowT River Crow

                        I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                        New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                        It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

                        Autumn MeadowM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #21

                        @therivercrow
                        This is precisely the reason I closed my account after the hostile takeover of the platform by the US government. This is beyond overreach.

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                        • River CrowT River Crow

                          I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                          New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                          It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

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                          @therivercrow It's been there since 2024. That doesn't make the app any less shit or concerning given the current state of the US, but it's not new.

                          https://web.archive.org/web/20260121054327/https://www.tiktok.com/legal/page/us/privacy-policy/en

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                          • River CrowT River Crow

                            I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                            New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                            It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

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                            @therivercrow absolutely not defending TikTok (stopped using it the day it was banned the first time), but do you have a more credible source than a screenshot from someone named Gee Deez Nutz? 🀨

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                            • River CrowT River Crow

                              I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                              New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                              It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

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                              @therivercrow@bardicperspiration.club is this surprising to anyone?

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                              • River CrowT River Crow

                                I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                                New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                                It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

                                ash :neodog_flag_gf:D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @therivercrow@bardicperspiration.club ehhh
                                they were collecting this stuff before (even if just implicitly through the content people post) - cynically, this is just people realising because they all got notified about new ToS with the takeover of the US bit. I'm almost willing to bet the old ones said that same.

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                                • marP mar

                                  @therivercrow I mean, it does specifically say it collects that information *if the user provides it*.. i.e. in a video they’ve made. I always assumed they were collecting that tbh. It recommends videos based on the ones you’ve already watched so it has to know something about the content of that video. IMO this isn’t really new it’s just more explicit.

                                  Benjamin BraatzH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @punkfairie @therivercrow Might well be that a lawyer would advise any Fediverse instance provider to include exactly the same language in their terms of service. If we happen to disclose those information on here, it may happen that it is processed in some way or the other, e.g., send to other instances, shown publicly, …

                                  Does not mean that TikTok won't do something more nefarious with what they have now that they have this tech-oligarch-controlled US branch, but outrage about terms of service is always a bit old.

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                                  • River CrowT River Crow

                                    I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                                    New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                                    It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

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                                    @therivercrow

                                    This does not say that Tiktok "tracks" this information, only that they will have and store this information if you give it to them via a survey or by putting it into a comment.

                                    Like, if you write "I am trans and an immigrant" into a comment on *any* social media platform, that social media platform is going to store and process that string into their database. Obviously.

                                    These ToS are only pointing this out explicitly.

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                                      @therivercrow

                                      This does not say that Tiktok "tracks" this information, only that they will have and store this information if you give it to them via a survey or by putting it into a comment.

                                      Like, if you write "I am trans and an immigrant" into a comment on *any* social media platform, that social media platform is going to store and process that string into their database. Obviously.

                                      These ToS are only pointing this out explicitly.

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                                      @therivercrow Like - this is utterly baseless fearmongering based on the fact that most people don't even try to parse anything mildly legalese.

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                                        @therivercrow Like - this is utterly baseless fearmongering based on the fact that most people don't even try to parse anything mildly legalese.

                                        Ratsnake Games πŸ”žR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @therivercrow Now, if you do not trust TikTok to handle your gender identity or immigration status with the sensitivity it requires, you probably should not disclose it to them, especially not in one of their customer surveys (which you can just not participate in).

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                                        • River CrowT River Crow

                                          I'm not on the tiktok but if you are, delete it.

                                          New ToS gives permission for it to track citizenship status, religious beliefs, mental health diagnosis, sexual orientation and if you're trans.

                                          It's a surveillance tool. Get rid of it.

                                          <<Omega 11>>S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @therivercrow πŸ§‘β€πŸš€πŸ”«πŸ‘¨β€πŸš€

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