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Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

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  • Michael BuschM Michael Busch

    @CStamp @cwebber

    Here is the proposed bill: https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/SB26-051 .

    Again; their claim is to allow sharing only an age flag rather than everyone's full ID getting leaked.

    Which does nothing to resolve the more fundamental problem.

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    @michael_w_busch @cwebber Even if it only restricts by age being shared and doesn't exploit that, that is STILL a big boon for marketers and still invades privacy of all.

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    • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

      Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

      Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

      There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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      Fish Id Wardrobe
      wrote last edited by
      #43

      @cwebber seems to me that this is evil, but a lesser evil than having to prove my age (actually my identity) to every site on the internet (which will then be pawned)

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      • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

        Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

        Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

        There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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        /usr/local/goth @ home
        wrote last edited by
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        @cwebber

        "Look Susie we have red star os at home"

        Red Star os at home:

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        • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

          @gorlak @cwebber @demofox what is considered "porn" here? And who decides? Moms for liberty? What's the appeal process like for wrongful classification?

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          demofox
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          #45

          @fluffykittycat @gorlak @cwebber indeed, and what about content regarding Wicca, or Islam? Where's the line and who decides it?

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          • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

            Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

            Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

            There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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            Paul McAleer
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            #46

            @cwebber Thanks for promoting this. This is in committee next Tuesday, 24 February, and members of the public in CO can sign up to attest (it's SB26-051). It's accepted via in-person, Zoom, or written.

            https://sites.coleg.gov/public-testimony/sign-up-to-testify/step-1

            Other notes from the bill: a) This is sponsored by 2 Democrats; b) web-based usage is not included in this, only apps + app stores; c) enterprise apps are exempted; d) the cost for the state to update *its* apps to support this is $250k. 🥴

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            • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

              @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber I didn't have a "trivial mind" at that age

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              FelisCatusDomesticus
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              #47

              @fluffykittycat @cwebber

              so what?

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              • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber you can't exactly do that individually on a dime like that

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                FelisCatusDomesticus
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                @fluffykittycat @cwebber

                yes you can.

                social media in it's current form has existed less than 30 years.

                humans have existed far longer than that.

                viable options exist and have for years now.

                there is no technical reason, only individual reasons and social ones and those are completely malleable. Most of my life there was no social media. It didn't exist.

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                • Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩F Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩

                  @fluffykittycat @cwebber better to do that than to let their kids have rights

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                  Fluffy Kitty Cat
                  wrote last edited by
                  #49

                  @freya @cwebber youth liberation went from being philosophical to being immediately relevant to everyone's rights

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                  • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                    @cwebber @FelisCatusDomesticus true, high schoolers are walking out coast to coast so often I see it in the headlines at least every couple of weeks

                    What's changed is that we all know our "representitives" don't care and won't listen

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                    FelisCatusDomesticus
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                    #50

                    @fluffykittycat @cwebber

                    and that's the same thing your great grandparents said about the politicians of their day vis-a-vis the Vietnam War..

                    soo.. what's the young generation gonna do?

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                    • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                      @freya @cwebber youth liberation went from being philosophical to being immediately relevant to everyone's rights

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                      Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
                      wrote last edited by
                      #51

                      @fluffykittycat @cwebber fucking correct. and as it becoems more and more of a common sense thing, parents and people in power scream ever louder at the concept that they might have to start having, not rights, but responsibilities

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                      • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

                        Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                        Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                        There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                        Glyph
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                        @cwebber what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck

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                        • FelisCatusDomesticusF FelisCatusDomesticus

                          @neatchee @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

                          this is where parental responsibility comes into the picture.

                          except in cases of gross incompetence, parents are still in charge of their kids, at least until age 18.

                          let's not forget all common sense here.

                          when the parents are as incompetent with tech as the kids, or even more so, then this is a different discussion.

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                          neatchee
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                          @FelisCatusDomesticus @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber it's almost entirely parental responsibility and social influence, that's my point. Kids are kids.

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                          • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

                            Colorado pushing for age verification on the OS level https://www.pcmag.com/news/colorado-lawmakers-push-for-age-verification-at-the-operating-system-level

                            Red alert! If this sounds like bad shit that's because IT IS

                            There was a time when the whole internet would be rallied against this stuff.....

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                            starkrg@myside-yourside.net
                            wrote last edited by
                            #54

                            @cwebber How in the absolute shit are they expecting to enforce such a ridiculous regulation? Or is that not something politicians care about?

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                            • neatcheeN neatchee

                              @FelisCatusDomesticus @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber it's almost entirely parental responsibility and social influence, that's my point. Kids are kids.

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                              FelisCatusDomesticus
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                              @neatchee @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

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                              • neatcheeN neatchee

                                @FelisCatusDomesticus @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber it's almost entirely parental responsibility and social influence, that's my point. Kids are kids.

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                                FelisCatusDomesticus
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                                @neatchee @KarlHeinzHasliP @cwebber

                                and dumb parents usually produce children who are equally dumb.

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                                • Maki 🔻R Maki 🔻

                                  @FelisCatusDomesticus @neatchee @cwebber Got a source link?

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                                  FelisCatusDomesticus
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                                  @RandamuMaki @neatchee @cwebber

                                  bertrand russel

                                  the problem of china

                                  essay, 1921

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                                  • FelisCatusDomesticusF FelisCatusDomesticus

                                    @cwebber young generations today are too stupid, too brainwashed, too self absorbed, to care

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                                    Not me
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                                    #58

                                    @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber they probably act like that toward you because you make this kind of comment that the generation before you was also making about you…

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                                    • Not meN Not me

                                      @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber they probably act like that toward you because you make this kind of comment that the generation before you was also making about you…

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                                      FelisCatusDomesticus
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                                      @Notme @cwebber

                                      but what if the comment is true? both then and now..

                                      then what?

                                      should we offer 2 versions? truth and truth lite?

                                      what do you suggest?

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                                      • AiresA Aires

                                        @fluffykittycat @freya @cwebber Because otherwise their kid might end up becoming one of those got dang "home of sexuals" and that's literally the worst thing to ever possibly happen to anyone ever

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                                        Fluffy Kitty Cat
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                                        @aires @freya @cwebber they've admitted it, yet people keep repeating the "harms of social media addiction to youth" like from liars

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                                        • Fluffy Kitty CatF Fluffy Kitty Cat

                                          @FelisCatusDomesticus @cwebber you can't exactly do that individually on a dime like that

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                                          FelisCatusDomesticus
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                                          @fluffykittycat @cwebber

                                          the FOMO is too strong in the young generation..

                                          they haven't figured it out yet..

                                          if this were not true, then they would not need anything more than email and 1980's style BBS to communicate online.

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