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Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

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  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

    Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

    Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

    Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

    So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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    Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
    Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
    Randahl Fink
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    #3

    Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

    A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

    B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me — like receiving an e-mail — and often more important than replies.

    So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

      Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

      A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

      B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me — like receiving an e-mail — and often more important than replies.

      So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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      Paul Kater - AntifaP This user is from outside of this forum
      Paul Kater - AntifaP This user is from outside of this forum
      Paul Kater - Antifa
      wrote last edited by
      #4

      @randahl Those sound like sound improvements indeed.

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      • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

        @randahl So long as the user controls it, why not?

        Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
        Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
        Randahl Fink
        wrote last edited by
        #5

        @farbel absolutely. One example of this could be, that I could mark you as having high priority to me, to make sure that I do not miss anything from you.

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        • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

          @farbel absolutely. One example of this could be, that I could mark you as having high priority to me, to make sure that I do not miss anything from you.

          Nicolas FressengeasF This user is from outside of this forum
          Nicolas FressengeasF This user is from outside of this forum
          Nicolas Fressengeas
          wrote last edited by
          #6

          @randahl
          You can, as of today, activate notifications for every post of a given account, so they you do not miss anything. Is this what you are thinking of ?
          @farbel

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          • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

            Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

            A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

            B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me — like receiving an e-mail — and often more important than replies.

            So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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            H This user is from outside of this forum
            H This user is from outside of this forum
            hajovonta
            wrote last edited by
            #7

            @randahl what bothers me even more is that I use multi-column view, and when I open a post, it shows up in the rightmost column (not adjustable), but if I want to reply or post, I can only do it in the leftmost column.

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            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

              Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

              Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

              Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

              So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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              el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦E This user is from outside of this forum
              el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦E This user is from outside of this forum
              el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦
              wrote last edited by
              #8

              @randahl
              are you asking for an ALGORITHM? 😵

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              • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

                A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

                B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me — like receiving an e-mail — and often more important than replies.

                So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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                WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
                WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
                WTL
                wrote last edited by
                #9

                @randahl You appear to be using Ivory, which groups notifications so it should be a bit more manageable.

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                • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                  Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

                  Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

                  Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

                  So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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                  LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
                  LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
                  LillaVee
                  wrote last edited by
                  #10

                  @randahl Come on. You’re never going to read or reply to me. I wasn’t born into the right white people club to experience belonging or safety.

                  But what you need isn’t fewer notifications. It’s the capacity to mark which repliers should be highlighted.

                  Some guy will say he thought of it after he reads this.

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                  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                    Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

                    Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

                    Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

                    So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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                    UrbanEdmU This user is from outside of this forum
                    UrbanEdmU This user is from outside of this forum
                    UrbanEdm
                    wrote last edited by
                    #11

                    @randahl An app could reasonably provide some sort and filter options that you control (keywords, number of favourites and boosts, replies, that kind of thing). Threading them so you only see the back and forth if you click in would be a good idea, too.

                    But a huge selling feature of Mastodon is that it doesn't outsource decisions about what's important to an unaccountable algorithm.

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                    • el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦E el Celio 🇪🇺 🇺🇦

                      @randahl
                      are you asking for an ALGORITHM? 😵

                      LeelooL This user is from outside of this forum
                      LeelooL This user is from outside of this forum
                      Leeloo
                      wrote last edited by
                      #12

                      @elCelio @randahl
                      Order by date is already using an algorithm.

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                      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                        @farbel absolutely. One example of this could be, that I could mark you as having high priority to me, to make sure that I do not miss anything from you.

                        AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                        AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                        Anja
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                        #13

                        @farbel @randahl Wouldn't that just be putting people in a list? Which is already possible? 🤔

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                        • Nicolas FressengeasF Nicolas Fressengeas

                          @randahl
                          You can, as of today, activate notifications for every post of a given account, so they you do not miss anything. Is this what you are thinking of ?
                          @farbel

                          Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                          Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                          Randahl Fink
                          wrote last edited by
                          #14

                          @fresseng I know, but that is not it. The problem is not getting more notifications, but less.

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                          • AnjaH Anja

                            @farbel @randahl Wouldn't that just be putting people in a list? Which is already possible? 🤔

                            Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                            Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                            Randahl Fink
                            wrote last edited by
                            #15

                            @HeyLaiverd
                            Lists prioritizes people, not notifications 🔔.
                            @farbel

                            saarmullerS AnjaH 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                              @HeyLaiverd
                              Lists prioritizes people, not notifications 🔔.
                              @farbel

                              saarmullerS This user is from outside of this forum
                              saarmullerS This user is from outside of this forum
                              saarmuller
                              wrote last edited by
                              #16

                              Do you see this reply and did you get a notification? I removed your name tag but it is still a reply.

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                              • LillaVeeL LillaVee

                                @randahl Come on. You’re never going to read or reply to me. I wasn’t born into the right white people club to experience belonging or safety.

                                But what you need isn’t fewer notifications. It’s the capacity to mark which repliers should be highlighted.

                                Some guy will say he thought of it after he reads this.

                                Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Randahl Fink
                                wrote last edited by
                                #17

                                @LillaVee I do not understand how I would know anything about a "white people's club".

                                But I think you are right, something that highlights notifications could be helpful.

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                                • UrbanEdmU UrbanEdm

                                  @randahl An app could reasonably provide some sort and filter options that you control (keywords, number of favourites and boosts, replies, that kind of thing). Threading them so you only see the back and forth if you click in would be a good idea, too.

                                  But a huge selling feature of Mastodon is that it doesn't outsource decisions about what's important to an unaccountable algorithm.

                                  Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Randahl Fink
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @UrbanEdm Let me be clear: I am not asking for AI.

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                                  • H hajovonta

                                    @randahl what bothers me even more is that I use multi-column view, and when I open a post, it shows up in the rightmost column (not adjustable), but if I want to reply or post, I can only do it in the leftmost column.

                                    Anne DelongA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Anne DelongA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Anne Delong
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #19

                                    @hajovonta @randahl

                                    There is already some grouping: if ten people boost your post, or favourite your post, they show up together as a group of the notifications list instead of one after another.

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                                    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                      @HeyLaiverd
                                      Lists prioritizes people, not notifications 🔔.
                                      @farbel

                                      AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Anja
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #20

                                      @farbel @randahl You talked about prioritizing people later on. Just read your thread again. 😊

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                                      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                        Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

                                        A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

                                        B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me — like receiving an e-mail — and often more important than replies.

                                        So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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                                        gnaddrigG This user is from outside of this forum
                                        gnaddrigG This user is from outside of this forum
                                        gnaddrig
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @randahl
                                        Both suggestions make a lot of sense to me. Would be great for busy accounts if Mastodon could implement something like that.

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                                        • Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Randahl Fink
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #22

                                          @nikatjef A simple example. If everything that you say is usually important to me, I could flag you as someone whose notifications should have priority.

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