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Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

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  • Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
    Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
    Randahl Fink
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    #1

    Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

    Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

    Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

    So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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    David Scott MoyerF Randahl FinkR el Celio πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦E LillaVeeL UrbanEdmU 5 Replies Last reply
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    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

      Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

      Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

      Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

      So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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      David Scott MoyerF This user is from outside of this forum
      David Scott MoyerF This user is from outside of this forum
      David Scott Moyer
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      #2

      @randahl So long as the user controls it, why not?

      Randahl FinkR 1 Reply Last reply
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      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

        Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

        Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

        Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

        So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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        Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
        Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
        Randahl Fink
        wrote last edited by
        #3

        Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

        A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

        B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me β€” like receiving an e-mail β€” and often more important than replies.

        So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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        Paul Kater - AntifaP H WTLW gnaddrigG Sβ˜…m Vβ˜…rmβ˜…S 5 Replies Last reply
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        • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

          Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

          A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

          B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me β€” like receiving an e-mail β€” and often more important than replies.

          So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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          Paul Kater - AntifaP This user is from outside of this forum
          Paul Kater - AntifaP This user is from outside of this forum
          Paul Kater - Antifa
          wrote last edited by
          #4

          @randahl Those sound like sound improvements indeed.

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          • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

            @randahl So long as the user controls it, why not?

            Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
            Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
            Randahl Fink
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            #5

            @farbel absolutely. One example of this could be, that I could mark you as having high priority to me, to make sure that I do not miss anything from you.

            Nicolas FressengeasF AnjaH 2 Replies Last reply
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            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

              @farbel absolutely. One example of this could be, that I could mark you as having high priority to me, to make sure that I do not miss anything from you.

              Nicolas FressengeasF This user is from outside of this forum
              Nicolas FressengeasF This user is from outside of this forum
              Nicolas Fressengeas
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @randahl
              You can, as of today, activate notifications for every post of a given account, so they you do not miss anything. Is this what you are thinking of ?
              @farbel

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              • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

                A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

                B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me β€” like receiving an e-mail β€” and often more important than replies.

                So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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                H This user is from outside of this forum
                H This user is from outside of this forum
                hajovonta
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                @randahl what bothers me even more is that I use multi-column view, and when I open a post, it shows up in the rightmost column (not adjustable), but if I want to reply or post, I can only do it in the leftmost column.

                Anne DelongA 1 Reply Last reply
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                • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                  Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

                  Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

                  Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

                  So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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                  el Celio πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦E This user is from outside of this forum
                  el Celio πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦E This user is from outside of this forum
                  el Celio πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
                  wrote last edited by
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                  @randahl
                  are you asking for an ALGORITHM? 😡

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                  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                    Let me give an example of improvements I would find helpful:

                    A: If two people debate a post I wrote, that may generate 20 notifications. I would prefer, if those 20 notifcations were grouped as 1.

                    B: If a person creates a new post, addressed to me, asking a question, that post would be of the utmost importance to me β€” like receiving an e-mail β€” and often more important than replies.

                    So what do you think? Could or should the Mastodon notification system help prioritize notifications?

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                    WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
                    WTLW This user is from outside of this forum
                    WTL
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                    #9

                    @randahl You appear to be using Ivory, which groups notifications so it should be a bit more manageable.

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                    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                      Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

                      Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

                      Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

                      So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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                      LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
                      LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
                      LillaVee
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                      #10

                      @randahl Come on. You’re never going to read or reply to me. I wasn’t born into the right white people club to experience belonging or safety.

                      But what you need isn’t fewer notifications. It’s the capacity to mark which repliers should be highlighted.

                      Some guy will say he thought of it after he reads this.

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                      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                        Should Mastodon notifications be prioritized?

                        Arriving on Mastodon today, I have 400 new notifications. Ideally, I would like to read and reply to everyone, but some days I just cannot cope with that many.

                        Currently, if I only get through 100 notifications, that will be the 100 most recent, and the oldest 300 are then lost. I really do not like that, because recency is not the same as importance.

                        So my question is, could or should Mastodon help users prioritize notifications some way?

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                        UrbanEdmU This user is from outside of this forum
                        UrbanEdmU This user is from outside of this forum
                        UrbanEdm
                        wrote last edited by
                        #11

                        @randahl An app could reasonably provide some sort and filter options that you control (keywords, number of favourites and boosts, replies, that kind of thing). Threading them so you only see the back and forth if you click in would be a good idea, too.

                        But a huge selling feature of Mastodon is that it doesn't outsource decisions about what's important to an unaccountable algorithm.

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                        • el Celio πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦E el Celio πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                          @randahl
                          are you asking for an ALGORITHM? 😡

                          LeelooL This user is from outside of this forum
                          LeelooL This user is from outside of this forum
                          Leeloo
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                          @elCelio @randahl
                          Order by date is already using an algorithm.

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                          • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                            @farbel absolutely. One example of this could be, that I could mark you as having high priority to me, to make sure that I do not miss anything from you.

                            AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                            AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                            Anja
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                            @farbel @randahl Wouldn't that just be putting people in a list? Which is already possible? πŸ€”

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                            • Nicolas FressengeasF Nicolas Fressengeas

                              @randahl
                              You can, as of today, activate notifications for every post of a given account, so they you do not miss anything. Is this what you are thinking of ?
                              @farbel

                              Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                              Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                              Randahl Fink
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                              #14

                              @fresseng I know, but that is not it. The problem is not getting more notifications, but less.

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                              • AnjaH Anja

                                @farbel @randahl Wouldn't that just be putting people in a list? Which is already possible? πŸ€”

                                Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                Randahl Fink
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                                #15

                                @HeyLaiverd
                                Lists prioritizes people, not notifications πŸ””.
                                @farbel

                                saarmullerS AnjaH 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                  @HeyLaiverd
                                  Lists prioritizes people, not notifications πŸ””.
                                  @farbel

                                  saarmullerS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  saarmullerS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  saarmuller
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                                  #16

                                  Do you see this reply and did you get a notification? I removed your name tag but it is still a reply.

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                                  • LillaVeeL LillaVee

                                    @randahl Come on. You’re never going to read or reply to me. I wasn’t born into the right white people club to experience belonging or safety.

                                    But what you need isn’t fewer notifications. It’s the capacity to mark which repliers should be highlighted.

                                    Some guy will say he thought of it after he reads this.

                                    Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Randahl Fink
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @LillaVee I do not understand how I would know anything about a "white people's club".

                                    But I think you are right, something that highlights notifications could be helpful.

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                                    • UrbanEdmU UrbanEdm

                                      @randahl An app could reasonably provide some sort and filter options that you control (keywords, number of favourites and boosts, replies, that kind of thing). Threading them so you only see the back and forth if you click in would be a good idea, too.

                                      But a huge selling feature of Mastodon is that it doesn't outsource decisions about what's important to an unaccountable algorithm.

                                      Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Randahl FinkR This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Randahl Fink
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @UrbanEdm Let me be clear: I am not asking for AI.

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                                      • H hajovonta

                                        @randahl what bothers me even more is that I use multi-column view, and when I open a post, it shows up in the rightmost column (not adjustable), but if I want to reply or post, I can only do it in the leftmost column.

                                        Anne DelongA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Anne DelongA This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Anne Delong
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @hajovonta @randahl

                                        There is already some grouping: if ten people boost your post, or favourite your post, they show up together as a group of the notifications list instead of one after another.

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                                        • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                          @HeyLaiverd
                                          Lists prioritizes people, not notifications πŸ””.
                                          @farbel

                                          AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                                          AnjaH This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Anja
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                                          #20

                                          @farbel @randahl You talked about prioritizing people later on. Just read your thread again. 😊

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