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  3. Before you go rushing to the voting booths to vote for the #Dems, take a minute to remember just little they did to stop the #Trump regime and how late they left it to bring him to justice.

Before you go rushing to the voting booths to vote for the #Dems, take a minute to remember just little they did to stop the #Trump regime and how late they left it to bring him to justice.

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  • Ken M SweeneyT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Before you go rushing to the voting booths to vote for the #Dems, take a minute to remember just little they did to stop the #Trump regime and how late they left it to bring him to justice. You also think about the absolute shambles of a campaign they carried out trying to firstly keep a man who was well past his sell by date and then replace him with the most inactive vice president ever. I'm not even going to mention #Gaza.
    #US #America #USA

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    • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

      Before you go rushing to the voting booths to vote for the #Dems, take a minute to remember just little they did to stop the #Trump regime and how late they left it to bring him to justice. You also think about the absolute shambles of a campaign they carried out trying to firstly keep a man who was well past his sell by date and then replace him with the most inactive vice president ever. I'm not even going to mention #Gaza.
      #US #America #USA

      ToweroftheArchmage AntifascistT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @TheComfortableSpotPodcast and your alternative suggestion is...

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      • ToweroftheArchmage AntifascistT ToweroftheArchmage Antifascist

        @TheComfortableSpotPodcast and your alternative suggestion is...

        Ken M SweeneyT This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ToweroftheArchmage "

        And your alternative suggestion is…” isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
        Doing the same thing every election cycle, watching it fail, and then demanding people do it again is the definition of insanity. The #Democrats had years to meaningfully stop #Trump, to protect democratic norms, and to offer real change — and they didn’t. Pointing that out isn’t apathy, it’s accountability. 1)

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          @ToweroftheArchmage "

          And your alternative suggestion is…” isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
          Doing the same thing every election cycle, watching it fail, and then demanding people do it again is the definition of insanity. The #Democrats had years to meaningfully stop #Trump, to protect democratic norms, and to offer real change — and they didn’t. Pointing that out isn’t apathy, it’s accountability. 1)

          Ken M SweeneyT This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ToweroftheArchmage Nothing will change in the US without an actual commitment to structural reform. Voting harder for a party that refuses to reform itself isn’t a strategy. The alternative is what countless other countries do.
          Build change from the ground up. Grassroots organising to elect people who genuinely believe in social democracy and understand public office as public service, not a career ladder or donor pipeline. 2)

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            @ToweroftheArchmage Nothing will change in the US without an actual commitment to structural reform. Voting harder for a party that refuses to reform itself isn’t a strategy. The alternative is what countless other countries do.
            Build change from the ground up. Grassroots organising to elect people who genuinely believe in social democracy and understand public office as public service, not a career ladder or donor pipeline. 2)

            Ken M SweeneyT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ToweroftheArchmage Push for a political system that allows new parties to form, encourages coalition governments, and includes proportional representation so votes actually matter. Cap political donations so policy isn’t written by billionaires and lobbyists. 3)

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            • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

              @ToweroftheArchmage "

              And your alternative suggestion is…” isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
              Doing the same thing every election cycle, watching it fail, and then demanding people do it again is the definition of insanity. The #Democrats had years to meaningfully stop #Trump, to protect democratic norms, and to offer real change — and they didn’t. Pointing that out isn’t apathy, it’s accountability. 1)

              ToweroftheArchmage AntifascistT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @TheComfortableSpotPodcast it isn't a gotcha, it's an actual question. What's your plan? What's your alternative?

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              • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

                @ToweroftheArchmage Push for a political system that allows new parties to form, encourages coalition governments, and includes proportional representation so votes actually matter. Cap political donations so policy isn’t written by billionaires and lobbyists. 3)

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                @ToweroftheArchmage And let’s be clear: being able to buy a Starbucks doesn’t mean you don’t live in a corrupt, increasingly authoritarian system. Consumer convenience is not democracy.

                If the only answer to systemic failure is “keep doing it anyway,” then you’re not defending democracy — you’re defending stagnation. 🔚

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                • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

                  @ToweroftheArchmage And let’s be clear: being able to buy a Starbucks doesn’t mean you don’t live in a corrupt, increasingly authoritarian system. Consumer convenience is not democracy.

                  If the only answer to systemic failure is “keep doing it anyway,” then you’re not defending democracy — you’re defending stagnation. 🔚

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                  @TheComfortableSpotPodcast lofty goals. Don't see any actualable activities or suggestions.

                  Do you think not voting is a good idea?

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                  • ToweroftheArchmage AntifascistT ToweroftheArchmage Antifascist

                    @TheComfortableSpotPodcast lofty goals. Don't see any actualable activities or suggestions.

                    Do you think not voting is a good idea?

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                    @ToweroftheArchmage
                    No one said “don’t vote.” That’s a straw man.
                    What I’m saying is that voting alone, especially in a system structurally designed to block change, is not enough — and pretending it is has delivered exactly the results we’re living with now. 1)

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                      @ToweroftheArchmage
                      No one said “don’t vote.” That’s a straw man.
                      What I’m saying is that voting alone, especially in a system structurally designed to block change, is not enough — and pretending it is has delivered exactly the results we’re living with now. 1)

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                      @ToweroftheArchmage Actionable steps look like this: • Organising locally and supporting candidates outside the corporate duopoly
                      • Primarying incumbents who consistently fail to act
                      • Building and funding grassroots campaigns, not parachuted national ones
                      • Pushing for proportional representation and electoral reform at state level
                      • Campaigning for strict caps on political donations and lobbying
                      • Normalising coalition politics instead of treating two parties as inevitable 2)

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                      • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

                        @ToweroftheArchmage Actionable steps look like this: • Organising locally and supporting candidates outside the corporate duopoly
                        • Primarying incumbents who consistently fail to act
                        • Building and funding grassroots campaigns, not parachuted national ones
                        • Pushing for proportional representation and electoral reform at state level
                        • Campaigning for strict caps on political donations and lobbying
                        • Normalising coalition politics instead of treating two parties as inevitable 2)

                        Ken M SweeneyT This user is from outside of this forum
                        Ken M SweeneyT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @ToweroftheArchmage

                        That’s how political change has happened elsewhere. It happened in my country countless times. It isn’t glamorous and it isn’t quick, but it is real.
                        And if the only political imagination on offer is “vote every four years and hope harder,” then you shouldn’t be surprised when nothing fundamentally changes. 3)

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                        • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

                          @ToweroftheArchmage

                          That’s how political change has happened elsewhere. It happened in my country countless times. It isn’t glamorous and it isn’t quick, but it is real.
                          And if the only political imagination on offer is “vote every four years and hope harder,” then you shouldn’t be surprised when nothing fundamentally changes. 3)

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                          @ToweroftheArchmage

                          This week, a woman died protesting ICE. That’s not a campaign failure or a messaging issue — it’s a systems failure. And systems don’t change by repeating the same choices and expecting different results. 🔚

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                          • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

                            @ToweroftheArchmage
                            No one said “don’t vote.” That’s a straw man.
                            What I’m saying is that voting alone, especially in a system structurally designed to block change, is not enough — and pretending it is has delivered exactly the results we’re living with now. 1)

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                            @TheComfortableSpotPodcast it isn't a strawman argument, it's an argument I saw regularly. "Both sides are the same why bother voting?" Add to that a little racism, and you got a depressed Democratic turnout and Trump is president again.

                            So forgive me if your initial post came off the wrong way.

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                            • ToweroftheArchmage AntifascistT ToweroftheArchmage Antifascist

                              @TheComfortableSpotPodcast it isn't a strawman argument, it's an argument I saw regularly. "Both sides are the same why bother voting?" Add to that a little racism, and you got a depressed Democratic turnout and Trump is president again.

                              So forgive me if your initial post came off the wrong way.

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                              @ToweroftheArchmage well I've answered your question more than sufficiently but I will leave you with this - if the Biden administraton had done what people have voted them to do and ensured that Trump never saw the inside of the Oval Office ever again, the undisputed fact is that Renee Nicole Good would be alive today.

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                              • Ken M SweeneyT Ken M Sweeney

                                Before you go rushing to the voting booths to vote for the #Dems, take a minute to remember just little they did to stop the #Trump regime and how late they left it to bring him to justice. You also think about the absolute shambles of a campaign they carried out trying to firstly keep a man who was well past his sell by date and then replace him with the most inactive vice president ever. I'm not even going to mention #Gaza.
                                #US #America #USA

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                                @TheComfortableSpotPodcast

                                Right now is the time to insist they run candidates who will actually work for the people. No more fascist enablers.

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