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  3. I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

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  • New Year, New BlueA New Year, New Blue

    @stefan I don't see a lot of it in my mentions, thankfully. Probably because I block people who do it.

    Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @APBBlue Smart!

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    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

      I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

      #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining

      Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #5

      I am not actually sure, I don't deal with it myself (go figure). I do know of a recent high-profile user being nearly driven away from the fediverse, so I do know it's still happening enough.

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      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

        I am not actually sure, I don't deal with it myself (go figure). I do know of a recent high-profile user being nearly driven away from the fediverse, so I do know it's still happening enough.

        fluffy 💜F This user is from outside of this forum
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        @stefan There's been a general decrease but I still get people not bothering to load/read the additional replies, but this is also a problem that happens on centralized media like Reddit and Twitter and such where a certain type of person just has to share their opinion even though several others had already.

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        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

          I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

          #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining

          DeeAnn LittleC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @stefan I had to vote "about the same" as I still encounter people replying to me with what I had originally said in the *exact* post they are replying to. I do really like the new functionality though on the reading end.

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          • fluffy 💜F fluffy 💜

            @stefan There's been a general decrease but I still get people not bothering to load/read the additional replies, but this is also a problem that happens on centralized media like Reddit and Twitter and such where a certain type of person just has to share their opinion even though several others had already.

            Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #8

            @fluffy Good point. Yeah, I really just can't relate to that mentality.

            Do these people really think they're being helpful? Or they just don't care? One has to wonder.

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            • DeeAnn LittleC DeeAnn Little

              @stefan I had to vote "about the same" as I still encounter people replying to me with what I had originally said in the *exact* post they are replying to. I do really like the new functionality though on the reading end.

              Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @chillicampari Yeah, sorry you (and so many others) still have to deal with that. Thank you for sticking around!

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              • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                @chillicampari Yeah, sorry you (and so many others) still have to deal with that. Thank you for sticking around!

                DeeAnn LittleC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @stefan and thank you. Yeah... I pretty much don't respond at all to people doing that these days.

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                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                  @fluffy Good point. Yeah, I really just can't relate to that mentality.

                  Do these people really think they're being helpful? Or they just don't care? One has to wonder.

                  fluffy 💜F This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @stefan I think they like hearing themselves speak, metaphorically speaking (the speaking of which in turn is also metaphorical).

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                  • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                    I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

                    #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining

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                    #12

                    Thanks everyone for boosting and sharing your thoughts!

                    Reminder about https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14762 and https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/8565.

                    Yes, you can't solve societal problems with technology, we all know that.

                    But giving people tools to protect themselves is good, actually!

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                    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                      @fluffy Good point. Yeah, I really just can't relate to that mentality.

                      Do these people really think they're being helpful? Or they just don't care? One has to wonder.

                      SzescstopniS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @stefan @fluffy Recently someone replied to me without reading the whole thread, but it was an honest mistake. Also, I remember myself ten years ago on Twitter., Much has changed, for better, I hope.

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                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                        I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

                        #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining

                        Mike PF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @stefan This poll should have an option for "Well, actually..." 😉

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                        • Mike PF Mike P

                          @stefan This poll should have an option for "Well, actually..." 😉

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                          @FenTiger Ah, right, forgot to account for people who never deal with this and therefore don't believe it exists as a problem!

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                          • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                            I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

                            #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining

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                            @stefan

                            The technical feature of seeing more posts searched-for and loaded *after* I opened an initial post is welcomed

                            "More replies found SHOW X"

                            That this somehow translates into a defense against the dreaded "Reply Guy" is utterly irrelevant

                            Mastodon is *not* a private chat room

                            If people are going to post public posts -- often using the most common hashtags -- they need to expect replies

                            Then, the idea that everyone *must* scroll diligently through *all* previous posts to make absolutely that one is not duplicating a reply made two hours earlier -- really?

                            Really?

                            Take a deep breath, people

                            Maybe the world is *not* exactly as you want it to be

                            You'll survive -- I promise

                            * * *

                            There

                            I replied

                            Happy?

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                            • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                              I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

                              #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining

                              FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @stefan

                              I don't know if this counts as mansplaining but there's been less repetition of replies in answer to questions. People are able to see others have already posted an answer.

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                              • fluffy 💜F fluffy 💜

                                @stefan I think they like hearing themselves speak, metaphorically speaking (the speaking of which in turn is also metaphorical).

                                Matt MascarenhasM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #18

                                @fluffy @stefan fwiw, I've wondered if a kind of "search-while-typing of message's similarity to existing replies" could help break free of the whole situation.

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                                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                  I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

                                  #fediverse #poll #SocialMedia #mansplaining

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                                  @stefan It's not just mansplaining any longer. There is lot of bikesplaining and fossplaining (eg. from my side), and, Fediverse being Fediverse, there is also invevitable transplaining.

                                  I think we should accept, that we are just federation of replyguys.

                                  Anyway, the world which would try to train their AI on my replies is doomed. The conclusion? Anything is better, than #aisplaining !

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                                  • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                                    @stefan

                                    I don't know if this counts as mansplaining but there's been less repetition of replies in answer to questions. People are able to see others have already posted an answer.

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                                    @FediThing Yes, I feel like there should be a proper study that takes into account subtleties like this.

                                    But at least the poll might get a conversation started.

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                                    • Matt MascarenhasM Matt Mascarenhas

                                      @fluffy @stefan fwiw, I've wondered if a kind of "search-while-typing of message's similarity to existing replies" could help break free of the whole situation.

                                      Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @miblo I like that! Something like what Discourse does (and probably other forums) when you start a new topic.

                                      @fluffy

                                      cc @scottjenson

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                                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                        @miblo I like that! Something like what Discourse does (and probably other forums) when you start a new topic.

                                        @fluffy

                                        cc @scottjenson

                                        Matt MascarenhasM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @stefan @fluffy @scottjenson Oh nice one, I didn't know anyone already does this. Must check out Discourse.

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                                        • Matt MascarenhasM Matt Mascarenhas

                                          @stefan @fluffy @scottjenson Oh nice one, I didn't know anyone already does this. Must check out Discourse.

                                          Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @miblo Yes, here's a screenshot of what this might look like on a forum: https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-do-i-enable-similar-topics-for-my-community/245479?tl=en

                                          Pretty neat!

                                          @fluffy @scottjenson

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