I'm curious, now that Mastodon is better at loading missing replies, have you noticed a decrease in mansplaining?

@chillicampari Yeah, sorry you (and so many others) still have to deal with that. Thank you for sticking around!

@stefan and thank you. Yeah... I pretty much don't respond at all to people doing that these days.

@stefan I think they like hearing themselves speak, metaphorically speaking (the speaking of which in turn is also metaphorical).

Thanks everyone for boosting and sharing your thoughts!

Reminder about https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/14762 and https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/8565.

Yes, you can't solve societal problems with technology, we all know that.

But giving people tools to protect themselves is good, actually!

@stefan @fluffy Recently someone replied to me without reading the whole thread, but it was an honest mistake. Also, I remember myself ten years ago on Twitter., Much has changed, for better, I hope.

@stefan This poll should have an option for "Well, actually..."

@FenTiger Ah, right, forgot to account for people who never deal with this and therefore don't believe it exists as a problem!

@stefan

The technical feature of seeing more posts searched-for and loaded *after* I opened an initial post is welcomed

"More replies found SHOW X"

That this somehow translates into a defense against the dreaded "Reply Guy" is utterly irrelevant

Mastodon is *not* a private chat room

If people are going to post public posts -- often using the most common hashtags -- they need to expect replies

Then, the idea that everyone *must* scroll diligently through *all* previous posts to make absolutely that one is not duplicating a reply made two hours earlier -- really?

Really?

Take a deep breath, people

Maybe the world is *not* exactly as you want it to be

You'll survive -- I promise

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There

I replied

Happy?

@stefan

I don't know if this counts as mansplaining but there's been less repetition of replies in answer to questions. People are able to see others have already posted an answer.

@fluffy @stefan fwiw, I've wondered if a kind of "search-while-typing of message's similarity to existing replies" could help break free of the whole situation.

@stefan It's not just mansplaining any longer. There is lot of bikesplaining and fossplaining (eg. from my side), and, Fediverse being Fediverse, there is also invevitable transplaining.

I think we should accept, that we are just federation of replyguys.

Anyway, the world which would try to train their AI on my replies is doomed. The conclusion? Anything is better, than #aisplaining !

@FediThing Yes, I feel like there should be a proper study that takes into account subtleties like this.

But at least the poll might get a conversation started.

@miblo I like that! Something like what Discourse does (and probably other forums) when you start a new topic.

@fluffy

cc @scottjenson

@stefan @fluffy @scottjenson Oh nice one, I didn't know anyone already does this. Must check out Discourse.

@miblo Yes, here's a screenshot of what this might look like on a forum: https://meta.discourse.org/t/how-do-i-enable-similar-topics-for-my-community/245479?tl=en

Pretty neat!

@fluffy @scottjenson

@stefan @fluffy @scottjenson Ah thanks, yeah, it looks sweet and just what I've had in mind this whole time! Surely it'd be a game-changer for us in microblogging…

@stefan I'm sorry for anyone that's been patronized because of their gender. Condescension based on assumptions is wrong.

My understanding is that mansplaining is explaining because you assume a woman doesn't know something. I don't dispute that happens.

What frustrates me though is the double standard I keep seeing. For example if I see someone writing something I don't agree with I tend to over explain. Not because of any gender but because I have opinions and want to ensure I explain what I mean. That's just how I communicate with everyone.

But I've watched the term get used here as a catch-all for any time a man disagrees with or corrects a woman. Sometimes warranted, sometimes not. And it builds this fear of even participating in discussions with women because your reasoning gets ignored in favor of assumed sexist intent.

If we're assuming someone's motivation based on their gender without evidence, how is that different from the problem we're trying to solve?

Let's put a stop to sexism. On both sides.

@miblo @stefan @scottjenson Yeah I have mixed feelings about Discourse in general but some of its UX stuff is genuinely great.

As a typical male I don't know if I'm sufficiently equipped to detect mansplaining. So, not sure.

@watchfulcitizen Yeah, the term does sometimes get used as a shorthand for different kinds of unsolicited replies.

And I do agree that social situations can get a bit tricky to navigate, especially online.

At the same time, when we see a complete stranger get something wrong on the internet, do we need to let them know? Maybe if it's a life-threatening misinformation, sure.

I for one have had a much better experience myself after I realized that it's fine to let people be wrong sometimes.