As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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@garius Every once in a while, an Oracle-related salesperson emails me asking to schedule a meeting, usually to pitch me something from a subsidiary. I reply:
"I know better than to become an Oracle customer."
The older salespeople just silently remove me from their list, but I've also had younger salespeople ask me to explain. I always do. Each time I've genuinely been the first person who's explained why someone might specifically wish to _not_ have a business relationship with Oracle.
@garius This goes the other way too: Oracle bought Dyn Inc and we immediately prioritized a migration away. Our account rep couldn't understand: "nothing changed!" "We've been a happy Dyn customer for years, but I can't risk doing business with Oracle. It's time to go."
We left on our terms, and of course then they killed the platform and laid everyone off, because Oracle's gonna Oracle.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius The technology changes. The Oracle experience remains timeless.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius it’s like 1999 all over again
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius Everyone in the IT industry has at least one Oracle story. Mine is that Sun Microsystems won an intranet contract with us using their Portal and app-server. Right after this Oracle bought them and killed both products. The Sun rep recommended we switch to Liferay (which also supported Java portlets) but that did not scale at all… Some of the other Sun products escaped into Forgerock (OpenIDM, OpenAM and OpenDS) luckily.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius I was studying for my SQL exams (Oracle DBA) on 9/11. Correlation does not mean causation, but...
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius all these clowns about to find out Larry Ellison is yet another serial sexual abuser.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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@garius Everyone in the IT industry has at least one Oracle story. Mine is that Sun Microsystems won an intranet contract with us using their Portal and app-server. Right after this Oracle bought them and killed both products. The Sun rep recommended we switch to Liferay (which also supported Java portlets) but that did not scale at all… Some of the other Sun products escaped into Forgerock (OpenIDM, OpenAM and OpenDS) luckily.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius And their flagship database is an enormous pile of Crap. Many people feed their families by knowing its quirks and difficulties, but I'd rather be productive.
To give you just one example: Oracle SQL HAS NO BOOLEAN DATA TYPE. The official recommendation is to use a 1 char field. What goes into that? Well, who knows? "Y/N" ? "y/n"? "O/N" if you're french? "1/0"?
In many shops, the result is supposedly boolean fields that contain 3, 5, even 7 different values. Yikes.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius the LOLest moment of the last few years on LinkedIn was explaining to an Oracle sales rep how fucking shit the company was and their historical context for being assholes and him thanking me for the details that weren't clear to him and made his last year of conversations make a lot more sense
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius@me.uk And I will never grow tired of Oxide and Friends live stream on Discord doing the occasional dunk on the master yachter, hisself.
Every time they dunk on Larry, an angel gets its wings.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
I disliked it when Oracle acquired Sun Microsystems. I disliked it when Oracle acquired MySQL. I disliked the dispute over Android and Java.
But, unpopular opinion here, over the years I have kind of really got used to the Oracle database, so yeah, a dilemma for me.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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@garius Just got an all-staff email at the university: no new transactions (expenses, purchases, etc.) for a month while they set up some new Oracle thing. I sent them a message of condolence.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
A product my employer used for a decade was bought out by oracle through another acquisition. Luckily the product was already sunset and there was only a six month overlap between EOL and the acquisition. Two years later we are still fighting bills incurred after EOL date. Sales order vs opportunities something or other. Trying to explain to CFO how Oracle is a money machine not a tech company made me sound like a crazy person. I think he is starting to get it now.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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Something to talk about in the holidays -
As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius See? Once in a loooong while, the laws of Kamma actually work in some discernible way.