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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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  • John BullG John Bull

    As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

    StuT This user is from outside of this forum
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    @garius My teenager and I had the Oracle talk last night. She literally only knew them as the Red Bull sponsor

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    • John BullG John Bull

      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

      The SecretbatcaveS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @garius Ellison, the Midas of shit.

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      • John BullG John Bull

        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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        @garius when I delenda est lately it has usually been Harmony Gold. But, Oracle delenda est is never out of season.

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        • John BullG John Bull

          As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

          Phil HaighG This user is from outside of this forum
          Phil HaighG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any “good” software that they bought up…

          🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳D Stumpy The MuttS 2 Replies Last reply
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          • John BullG John Bull

            As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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            @garius That reason why? One Rich Asshole Called Larry Ellison

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            • John BullG John Bull

              As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

              Programmer 832-529 🍅S This user is from outside of this forum
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              Programmer 832-529 🍅
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              @garius some traditions should be kept

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              • John BullG John Bull

                As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                @garius @piepants Oracle is old evil. None of this new evil.

                (Play on old/new money.)

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                • John BullG John Bull

                  As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

                  Will GlynnW This user is from outside of this forum
                  Will GlynnW This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @garius Every once in a while, an Oracle-related salesperson emails me asking to schedule a meeting, usually to pitch me something from a subsidiary. I reply:

                  "I know better than to become an Oracle customer."

                  The older salespeople just silently remove me from their list, but I've also had younger salespeople ask me to explain. I always do. Each time I've genuinely been the first person who's explained why someone might specifically wish to _not_ have a business relationship with Oracle.

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                  • Will GlynnW Will Glynn

                    @garius Every once in a while, an Oracle-related salesperson emails me asking to schedule a meeting, usually to pitch me something from a subsidiary. I reply:

                    "I know better than to become an Oracle customer."

                    The older salespeople just silently remove me from their list, but I've also had younger salespeople ask me to explain. I always do. Each time I've genuinely been the first person who's explained why someone might specifically wish to _not_ have a business relationship with Oracle.

                    Will GlynnW This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @garius This goes the other way too: Oracle bought Dyn Inc and we immediately prioritized a migration away. Our account rep couldn't understand: "nothing changed!" "We've been a happy Dyn customer for years, but I can't risk doing business with Oracle. It's time to go."

                    We left on our terms, and of course then they killed the platform and laid everyone off, because Oracle's gonna Oracle.

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                    • John BullG John Bull

                      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                      @garius The technology changes. The Oracle experience remains timeless.

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                      • John BullG John Bull

                        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

                        Ericka SimoneE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @garius it’s like 1999 all over again

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                        • John BullG John Bull

                          As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                          @garius Everyone in the IT industry has at least one Oracle story. Mine is that Sun Microsystems won an intranet contract with us using their Portal and app-server. Right after this Oracle bought them and killed both products. The Sun rep recommended we switch to Liferay (which also supported Java portlets) but that did not scale at all… Some of the other Sun products escaped into Forgerock (OpenIDM, OpenAM and OpenDS) luckily.

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                          • John BullG John Bull

                            As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                            @garius

                            I fled the country 23 years ago to escape my role as an Oracle DBA.

                            Never again.

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                            • John BullG John Bull

                              As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                              @garius I was studying for my SQL exams (Oracle DBA) on 9/11. Correlation does not mean causation, but...

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                              • John BullG John Bull

                                As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                @garius all these clowns about to find out Larry Ellison is yet another serial sexual abuser.

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                                • John BullG John Bull

                                  As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

                                  Dio9sysD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @garius
                                  we should sell tiktok to Novell instead. What's the worst that could happen?

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                                  • Tor Iver WilhelmsenT Tor Iver Wilhelmsen

                                    @garius Everyone in the IT industry has at least one Oracle story. Mine is that Sun Microsystems won an intranet contract with us using their Portal and app-server. Right after this Oracle bought them and killed both products. The Sun rep recommended we switch to Liferay (which also supported Java portlets) but that did not scale at all… Some of the other Sun products escaped into Forgerock (OpenIDM, OpenAM and OpenDS) luckily.

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                                    @toriver @garius

                                    I am so very happy I left the Java trail of tears behind many years ago.

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                                    • John BullG John Bull

                                      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                      @garius it might be time to go back and rewatch Brian Cantrill's "don't anthropomorphise Larry Ellison" talk

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                                      • John BullG John Bull

                                        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                        @garius And their flagship database is an enormous pile of Crap. Many people feed their families by knowing its quirks and difficulties, but I'd rather be productive.

                                        To give you just one example: Oracle SQL HAS NO BOOLEAN DATA TYPE. The official recommendation is to use a 1 char field. What goes into that? Well, who knows? "Y/N" ? "y/n"? "O/N" if you're french? "1/0"?

                                        In many shops, the result is supposedly boolean fields that contain 3, 5, even 7 different values. Yikes.

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                                        • John BullG John Bull

                                          As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                          @garius the LOLest moment of the last few years on LinkedIn was explaining to an Oracle sales rep how fucking shit the company was and their historical context for being assholes and him thanking me for the details that weren't clear to him and made his last year of conversations make a lot more sense

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