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  3. While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

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  • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

    While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

    Today Facebook crushed my soul with this abomination.

    A while ago I wrote this article explaining how to spot fake #astrophotography images using science:

    https://www.eso.org/public/blog/csi-astronomy/

    That article has now been superseded by "this is fake because <waves hands angrily in despair>"

    WriteDragonW This user is from outside of this forum
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    @astro_jcm I immediately blocked any page that posted this abomination and asserted it as true.

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    • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

      While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

      Today Facebook crushed my soul with this abomination.

      A while ago I wrote this article explaining how to spot fake #astrophotography images using science:

      https://www.eso.org/public/blog/csi-astronomy/

      That article has now been superseded by "this is fake because <waves hands angrily in despair>"

      Jonathan AddlemanJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jonathan AddlemanJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @astro_jcm
      It's a very pretty abstract image, at least. It'd do nicely airbrushed on the side of a van. Maybe with a howling wolf in front? And flames?

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      • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

        The replies to that post are a rollercoaster of emotions:

        1. people who think it's real (I genuinely don't fault them, if you've never seen a real one you're not expected to know this is fake)
        2. people who say it's fake but then use it to justify some "flat Earth/physics is fake" b.s.
        3. people who correctly explain why this is fake
        4. people mad at (3) because they incorrectly think that (3) are science deniers like (2)

        Why are we in the darkest timeline.

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        @astro_jcm i’m distraught at (1)s. it says solar eclipse then says lunar and then shows the moon?! come on

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        • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

          The replies to that post are a rollercoaster of emotions:

          1. people who think it's real (I genuinely don't fault them, if you've never seen a real one you're not expected to know this is fake)
          2. people who say it's fake but then use it to justify some "flat Earth/physics is fake" b.s.
          3. people who correctly explain why this is fake
          4. people mad at (3) because they incorrectly think that (3) are science deniers like (2)

          Why are we in the darkest timeline.

          65dBnoise6 This user is from outside of this forum
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          @astro_jcm
          Why?
          Because we were conditioned to believe that science was a-political, like it was when Galileo was forced by the Inquisition to submit to their "a-political" views about the universe.

          So, we swallowed the blue pill and set out to enjoy the "end of history" in the ideal politico-economic system where Google, FB etc were "democratizing" technology, completely a-politically of course, and just making an a-political buck on the side.

          #sarcasm

          We sleep-walked into a nightmare.

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          • krisL kris

            @astro_jcm i’m distraught at (1)s. it says solar eclipse then says lunar and then shows the moon?! come on

            GunChleocG This user is from outside of this forum
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            @literally I think you confused the terminology there. A solar eclipse is when the sun gets eclipsed by the moon, so the moon is in front of the sun.

            The text description is not the problem here.

            @astro_jcm

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            • Alejandro_PA Alejandro_P

              @astro_jcm Facebook is such a shit hole, but a lot of older people still use it. I don't know if they are more susceptible to this bs

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              @Alejandro_P No idea to be honest...

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              • StuT Stu

                @astro_jcm That is really, really bad.

                I was desperately fortunate to take my whole family to the US total solar eclipse in 2024, so my kids could see this effect for themselves. I wish we could enrich more people's experiences (of astronomy, and beyond) in this way. A tiny portion of the capex being spent on systems which generate this crap would be a good start.

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                @tehstu It's such a unique experience, isn't it? No words can fully convey what it's like to see one live.

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                • 65dBnoise6 65dBnoise

                  @astro_jcm
                  Why?
                  Because we were conditioned to believe that science was a-political, like it was when Galileo was forced by the Inquisition to submit to their "a-political" views about the universe.

                  So, we swallowed the blue pill and set out to enjoy the "end of history" in the ideal politico-economic system where Google, FB etc were "democratizing" technology, completely a-politically of course, and just making an a-political buck on the side.

                  #sarcasm

                  We sleep-walked into a nightmare.

                  Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @65dBnoise @astro_jcm Actually that's slightly fake news. His treatise also had bible theology in it and the science bit was obsolete. Contemporary Kepler went further. Galileo also had mistaken ideas about tides that sailors had complained of.
                  His punishment was to stay in the Villa he didn't want to leave.
                  The Churches did do terrible things, but this often quoted one is misleading. The Pope was a close friend of Galileo.
                  BTW Kepler's mother was accused of being a witch, but got off.

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                  • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

                    @tehstu It's such a unique experience, isn't it? No words can fully convey what it's like to see one live.

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                    @astro_jcm Absolutely astonishing. I waited a long time to see one (previous attempt in the late 90s, back in the UK), and I'm so glad my kids got that opportunity in their formative years.

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                    • Michael PorterM Michael Porter

                      @astro_jcm Amazing things happen at the poles - this is one of my favourites…
                      “An amazing photo and not one easily duplicated.” yepppp

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                      @MichaelPorter @astro_jcm I actually remember seeing that one on APOD!

                      https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap060620.html

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                      • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

                        While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

                        Today Facebook crushed my soul with this abomination.

                        A while ago I wrote this article explaining how to spot fake #astrophotography images using science:

                        https://www.eso.org/public/blog/csi-astronomy/

                        That article has now been superseded by "this is fake because <waves hands angrily in despair>"

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                        @astro_jcm Before deleting, I only ever used facebook for meme groups.

                        I got tired of correcting physics, even in physics groups― some of which were sharing some psuedoscience spiritual dude. People were like "oh, so you do know!". Others, "you don't know anything!". Others still, "That's wrong. Explain it then!"

                        For Ads, I'd just report as harassment.
                        Staying just within the meme groups meant I seen no ads. But my data was still taken.

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                        • RokosunF Rokosun

                          @astro_jcm

                          I like how you break down these interactions, group 2 and 4 tells me how there is little room for nuance on social media. Unfortunately misinformation campaigns and fake clickbaity posts like these have gotten more popular over the years 🙁

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                          @futureisfoss You hit the nail on the head there with the lack of nuance.

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                          • Michael PorterM Michael Porter

                            @astro_jcm Amazing things happen at the poles - this is one of my favourites…
                            “An amazing photo and not one easily duplicated.” yepppp

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                            @MichaelPorter "not one easily duplicated" - I mean, that's not wrong 😄 But yeah...

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                            • WriteDragonW WriteDragon

                              @astro_jcm I immediately blocked any page that posted this abomination and asserted it as true.

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                              @WriteDragon Same. Happy that this kind of accounts aren't that popular here.

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                              • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

                                While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

                                Today Facebook crushed my soul with this abomination.

                                A while ago I wrote this article explaining how to spot fake #astrophotography images using science:

                                https://www.eso.org/public/blog/csi-astronomy/

                                That article has now been superseded by "this is fake because <waves hands angrily in despair>"

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                                @astro_jcm 😭

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                                • GunChleocG GunChleoc

                                  @literally I think you confused the terminology there. A solar eclipse is when the sun gets eclipsed by the moon, so the moon is in front of the sun.

                                  The text description is not the problem here.

                                  @astro_jcm

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                                  @gunchleoc @literally Exactly. Mentioning the lunar surface is ok here, because in a proper HDR image of a solar eclipse you can rescue details of the lunar surface illuminated by the earthshine. The caption, on its own, is correct (except for the first sentence claiming this pic is from the Feb 17 eclipse). It's the image that is problematic. But if one has never seen a real one before it's easy to fall for it.

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                                  • Juan Carlos MuñozA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @cxj Thanks! Really glad you enjoyed it 🙂

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                                    • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

                                      While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

                                      Today Facebook crushed my soul with this abomination.

                                      A while ago I wrote this article explaining how to spot fake #astrophotography images using science:

                                      https://www.eso.org/public/blog/csi-astronomy/

                                      That article has now been superseded by "this is fake because <waves hands angrily in despair>"

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                                      @astro_jcm oh, this is truly awful

                                      And yes, most of the older people on FB still simply don't have the background to question it

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                                      • Juan Carlos MuñozA Juan Carlos Muñoz

                                        While I'm no longer active in many commercial #SocialMedia platforms, as a #science communicator I still keep an eye on them to see how people (mis)understand #astronomy, and incorporate those lessons to my job.

                                        Today Facebook crushed my soul with this abomination.

                                        A while ago I wrote this article explaining how to spot fake #astrophotography images using science:

                                        https://www.eso.org/public/blog/csi-astronomy/

                                        That article has now been superseded by "this is fake because <waves hands angrily in despair>"

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                                        @astro_jcm hey thank you for posting your article, it was a great read, and one of the (real!) photos is gonna be my inspiration for a daily art prompt today

                                        Also, I share your "uuuuuuugh" at the folks enthusiastically and uncritically sharing these.

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                                        • Ray McCarthyR Ray McCarthy

                                          @65dBnoise @astro_jcm Actually that's slightly fake news. His treatise also had bible theology in it and the science bit was obsolete. Contemporary Kepler went further. Galileo also had mistaken ideas about tides that sailors had complained of.
                                          His punishment was to stay in the Villa he didn't want to leave.
                                          The Churches did do terrible things, but this often quoted one is misleading. The Pope was a close friend of Galileo.
                                          BTW Kepler's mother was accused of being a witch, but got off.

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                                          @raymaccarthy @65dBnoise @astro_jcm

                                          Kepler's mom was tortured first.

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