The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

nomadmisha

@fdroidorg @marcprux
🫱Ubuntu Touch (@ubports)

Koen

I am so sad. I was considering returning to android after a hiatus. But this new direction really makes me hope that true open platforms will be viable for daily use soon.

Cy8aer

@fdroidorg @marcprux Why is #grapheneos not on https://keepandroidopen.org/ ? Holy war again?

Hans

@fdroidorg @marcprux

Die Website "FDroid" hat ein neues Banner, um die Besucher daran zu erinnern, dass "Google den Kurs nicht geändert hat" und "Android" in weniger als 200 Tagen gesperrt wird.

Datenschutz- und Regulierungsbehörden sind ernsthaft besorgt über Monopole und die zunehmende Machtkonzentration im Technologiesektor – und sie möchten die Stimmen der Betroffenen hören.

Für weitere Infos: https://keepandroidopen.org/de/

https://f-droid.org/de/

zetabeta

@fdroidorg @marcprux
i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺

@cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux iirc grapheneos disagrees with fdroid's signature model (where all apps are signed by fdroid and builds aren't really reproducible), among other things. However, I don't think this is the case here. You may ping them and ask if you want.
Here is some insight of you wanna go down the rabbit hole: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7519-f-droid-security/10

Syphist :verifiedtrans:

@fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social I'm already drifting away from android as an everything device. I'm so tired of Google enshitifying what they made and the need to be constantly online. My guess is that I'll have a phone that's just a phone in 5 years. All I need is chat apps like Signal, SMS, calling, and a basic web browser to look the occasional thing up. What I run could be modified android, but it won't be anything close to what Google would want me to run

manoel

@koen @fdroidorg @marcprux what alternative do you use?

IzzyOnDroid ✅

@fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

uuʎℲ

@fdroidorg @marcprux
I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

Stu

@Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux

I read some of those threads linked from the discuss link. This whole situation is exhausting. Multiple ways to get screwed over on multiple fronts. The layman has no chance to understand any of this.

And then, of course, you'll get a pithy "use ubuntu" reply to these threads, which is fine if you have one of the 12 old phones supported by it.

I don't know what the solution is, but if the answer is "get the apk from github and ensure you trust the dev" then essentially everyone is screwed.

Epic Null

@fdroidorg @marcprux 200 days till lock down. That means about half a year to finish my divorce from Google and find a replacement phone.

Ironically this is the first news lately that has not made me feel horribly behind schedule.

zetabeta

@tehstu @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux
even with sideloading, apk's needs to be installed using adb. using normal user interface enforces google's totalitarianism .... control.

0x0

@fdroidorg

Help us @postmarketOS, you're our only hope.

ElGrossKotzo

@fdroidorg @marcprux

make a new mobile os without google?

F-Droid

@Alonely0 @cy8aer Older apps were added when reproducibility wasn't achievable. For this reason today only about 22% of apps that we host are signed by their developer. This number will increase with time as we push for reproducibility at inclusion time. Also, switching from one signer to another is an annoying process that users need to take manually, for security reasons.

Spark Purcell (they/them)

@pixelfed and please be sure to resist

Kalle Kniivilä

@fdroidorg @murena @gael What will this mean for Murena users?

Klaus

RE: https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086115016017602

Wie sieht das dann mit z. B. GrapheneOS oder /e/OS aus? Sind die damit auch aus dem Spiel?

Zumindest bei z. B. einem Fairphone mit /e/OS hätte ich die Hoffnung, dass die auch weiterhin nutzbar wären?

Gonçalo Valério

@fdroidorg As a big fan and user of F-Droid, I'm afraid the writing is on the wall.

As others have said, we can no longer rely on Android being what it needs to be.

A true alternative is required.