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  3. The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • F-DroidF F-Droid

    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

    Thank you for your support!

    KoenK This user is from outside of this forum
    KoenK This user is from outside of this forum
    Koen
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    #3

    @fdroidorg @marcprux

    I am so sad. I was considering returning to android after a hiatus. But this new direction really makes me hope that true open platforms will be viable for daily use soon.

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    • F-DroidF F-Droid

      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

      Thank you for your support!

      Cy8aerC This user is from outside of this forum
      Cy8aerC This user is from outside of this forum
      Cy8aer
      wrote last edited by
      #4

      @fdroidorg @marcprux Why is #grapheneos not on https://keepandroidopen.org/ ? Holy war again?

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      • F-DroidF F-Droid

        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

        Thank you for your support!

        H This user is from outside of this forum
        H This user is from outside of this forum
        Hans
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        #5

        @fdroidorg @marcprux

        Die Website "FDroid" hat ein neues Banner, um die Besucher daran zu erinnern, dass "Google den Kurs nicht geändert hat" und "Android" in weniger als 200 Tagen gesperrt wird.

        Datenschutz- und Regulierungsbehörden sind ernsthaft besorgt über Monopole und die zunehmende Machtkonzentration im Technologiesektor – und sie möchten die Stimmen der Betroffenen hören.

        Für weitere Infos: https://keepandroidopen.org/de/

        https://f-droid.org/de/

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        • F-DroidF F-Droid

          The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

          If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

          https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

          We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

          Thank you for your support!

          zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
          zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
          zetabeta
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          #6

          @fdroidorg @marcprux
          i don't like to downplay f-droid efforts, or spread pessimism.

          still, my unfortunate opinion. android starts to be lost cause, too much gooish google in it, like there is apple control in apple devices.

          it is not just closed google components, it is android ecosystem and api's in general. alphabet inc controls android too much.

          of course, delaying destruction of open android is still beneficial for short term.

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          • Cy8aerC Cy8aer

            @fdroidorg @marcprux Why is #grapheneos not on https://keepandroidopen.org/ ? Holy war again?

            Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺A This user is from outside of this forum
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            @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux iirc grapheneos disagrees with fdroid's signature model (where all apps are signed by fdroid and builds aren't really reproducible), among other things. However, I don't think this is the case here. You may ping them and ask if you want.
            Here is some insight of you wanna go down the rabbit hole: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7519-f-droid-security/10

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            • F-DroidF F-Droid

              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

              Thank you for your support!

              Syphist :verifiedtrans:S This user is from outside of this forum
              Syphist :verifiedtrans:S This user is from outside of this forum
              Syphist :verifiedtrans:
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              #8

              @fdroidorg@floss.social @marcprux@mastodon.social I'm already drifting away from android as an everything device. I'm so tired of Google enshitifying what they made and the need to be constantly online. My guess is that I'll have a phone that's just a phone in 5 years. All I need is chat apps like Signal, SMS, calling, and a basic web browser to look the occasional thing up. What I run could be modified android, but it won't be anything close to what Google would want me to run

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              • KoenK Koen

                @fdroidorg @marcprux

                I am so sad. I was considering returning to android after a hiatus. But this new direction really makes me hope that true open platforms will be viable for daily use soon.

                manoelS This user is from outside of this forum
                manoelS This user is from outside of this forum
                manoel
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                @koen @fdroidorg @marcprux what alternative do you use?

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                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

                  IzzyOnDroid ✅I This user is from outside of this forum
                  IzzyOnDroid ✅I This user is from outside of this forum
                  IzzyOnDroid ✅
                  wrote last edited by
                  #10

                  @fdroidorg @marcprux And while the banner correctly states F-Droid being under threat: it's not just F-Droid, it's the free Android world being under threat. In its entirety. So the same applies to IzzyOnDroid – but also to Obtainium & Co. And if you think you could still use Aurora to access the PlayStore, think again: how would you install Aurora in the first place?

                  This is the empire striking. The alleged "security" is just a way to circumvent the requirement to open for alternative stores.

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                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                    Thank you for your support!

                    uuʎℲF This user is from outside of this forum
                    uuʎℲF This user is from outside of this forum
                    uuʎℲ
                    wrote last edited by
                    #11

                    @fdroidorg @marcprux
                    I did use the means on https://keepandroidopen.org to reach out. However, I am not convinced it will change the course Alphabet/Google set for Android.
                    Therefore I preordered the new #jollaphone with Sailfish OS and AndroidAppSupport.
                    Maybe it is time for Linux to shine on mobile as well. May it be #sailfishos, #postmarketos, #ubuntutouch or another Linux mobile OS. And Android emulators like #WayDroid .

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                    • Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺A Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺

                      @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux iirc grapheneos disagrees with fdroid's signature model (where all apps are signed by fdroid and builds aren't really reproducible), among other things. However, I don't think this is the case here. You may ping them and ask if you want.
                      Here is some insight of you wanna go down the rabbit hole: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7519-f-droid-security/10

                      StuT This user is from outside of this forum
                      StuT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux

                      I read some of those threads linked from the discuss link. This whole situation is exhausting. Multiple ways to get screwed over on multiple fronts. The layman has no chance to understand any of this.

                      And then, of course, you'll get a pithy "use ubuntu" reply to these threads, which is fine if you have one of the 12 old phones supported by it.

                      I don't know what the solution is, but if the answer is "get the apk from github and ensure you trust the dev" then essentially everyone is screwed.

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                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                        Thank you for your support!

                        E This user is from outside of this forum
                        E This user is from outside of this forum
                        Epic Null
                        wrote last edited by
                        #13

                        @fdroidorg @marcprux 200 days till lock down. That means about half a year to finish my divorce from Google and find a replacement phone.

                        Ironically this is the first news lately that has not made me feel horribly behind schedule.

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                        • StuT Stu

                          @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux

                          I read some of those threads linked from the discuss link. This whole situation is exhausting. Multiple ways to get screwed over on multiple fronts. The layman has no chance to understand any of this.

                          And then, of course, you'll get a pithy "use ubuntu" reply to these threads, which is fine if you have one of the 12 old phones supported by it.

                          I don't know what the solution is, but if the answer is "get the apk from github and ensure you trust the dev" then essentially everyone is screwed.

                          zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
                          zetabetaZ This user is from outside of this forum
                          zetabeta
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                          @tehstu @Alonely0 @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux
                          even with sideloading, apk's needs to be installed using adb. using normal user interface enforces google's totalitarianism .... control.

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                          • F-DroidF F-Droid

                            The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                            If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                            https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                            We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                            Thank you for your support!

                            0x00 This user is from outside of this forum
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                            0x0
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                            @fdroidorg

                            Help us @postmarketOS, you're our only hope.

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                            • F-DroidF F-Droid

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

                              ElGrossKotzoE This user is from outside of this forum
                              ElGrossKotzoE This user is from outside of this forum
                              ElGrossKotzo
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                              #16

                              @fdroidorg @marcprux

                              make a new mobile os without google?

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                              • Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺A Alonely0 🦀 🇪🇺

                                @cy8aer @fdroidorg @marcprux iirc grapheneos disagrees with fdroid's signature model (where all apps are signed by fdroid and builds aren't really reproducible), among other things. However, I don't think this is the case here. You may ping them and ask if you want.
                                Here is some insight of you wanna go down the rabbit hole: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/7519-f-droid-security/10

                                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                                F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                                F-Droid
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                                @Alonely0 @cy8aer Older apps were added when reproducibility wasn't achievable. For this reason today only about 22% of apps that we host are signed by their developer. This number will increase with time as we push for reproducibility at inclusion time. Also, switching from one signer to another is an annoying process that users need to take manually, for security reasons.

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                                • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                  Thank you for your support!

                                  Spark Purcell (they/them)A This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Spark Purcell (they/them)
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                                  @pixelfed and please be sure to resist

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                                  • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                    The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                    If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                    https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                    We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                    Thank you for your support!

                                    Kalle KniiviläK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Kalle KniiviläK This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Kalle Kniivilä
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                                    #19

                                    @fdroidorg @murena @gael What will this mean for Murena users?

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                                    • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                      Thank you for your support!

                                      KlausK This user is from outside of this forum
                                      KlausK This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Klaus
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                                      #20

                                      RE: https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086115016017602

                                      Wie sieht das dann mit z. B. GrapheneOS oder /e/OS aus? Sind die damit auch aus dem Spiel?

                                      Zumindest bei z. B. einem Fairphone mit /e/OS hätte ich die Hoffnung, dass die auch weiterhin nutzbar wären?

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                                      • F-DroidF F-Droid

                                        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                        Thank you for your support!

                                        Gonçalo ValérioD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Gonçalo ValérioD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Gonçalo Valério
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #21

                                        @fdroidorg As a big fan and user of F-Droid, I'm afraid the writing is on the wall.

                                        As others have said, we can no longer rely on Android being what it needs to be.

                                        A true alternative is required.

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                                        • Kalle KniiviläK Kalle Kniivilä

                                          @fdroidorg @murena @gael What will this mean for Murena users?

                                          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          F-DroidF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          F-Droid
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                                          #22

                                          @kallekn @murena@mastodon.social @gael Nothing, all will work fine past September 2026. That being said, Google releases Android code less often each year so issues will creep up...

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