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  3. I know one of the horsemen is called "Pestilence" but I didn't expect him to be a Kennedy.

I know one of the horsemen is called "Pestilence" but I didn't expect him to be a Kennedy.

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  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

    I know one of the horsemen is called "Pestilence" but I didn't expect him to be a Kennedy.

    So who are the other three?

    I think I know who "War" is.

    Guy BrushS This user is from outside of this forum
    Guy BrushS This user is from outside of this forum
    Guy Brush
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    @futurebird

    Pestilence

    Mendacity

    Incompetence

    And their leader, Incontinence

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    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

      I have *tried* to understand RFK's perspective and more than any of these people nothing he does even makes much sense. There is a theme of cutting support for the general public. A kind of DIY (DIE) health care theme.

      But, he seems to really think he's doing something coherent and I can't make any sense of it.

      Your weary 'net denizenC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @futurebird I'm not entirely sure, but grifting (selling "wellness" products), an unacknowledged belief in eugenics, the idea that public health is more about individual choices and responsibility than group efforts and responsibility to the whole, and an overdeveloped skepticism of existing science that partially derives from the former traits.

      At least, that seems to explain a lot of his behavior to me. Basically, a wholly unqualified person for the authority and responsibilities he's been given.

      I often think RFK is the most dangerous of the bunch.

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      • Your weary 'net denizenC Your weary 'net denizen

        @futurebird I'm not entirely sure, but grifting (selling "wellness" products), an unacknowledged belief in eugenics, the idea that public health is more about individual choices and responsibility than group efforts and responsibility to the whole, and an overdeveloped skepticism of existing science that partially derives from the former traits.

        At least, that seems to explain a lot of his behavior to me. Basically, a wholly unqualified person for the authority and responsibilities he's been given.

        I often think RFK is the most dangerous of the bunch.

        Christine Lemmer-WebberC This user is from outside of this forum
        Christine Lemmer-WebberC This user is from outside of this forum
        Christine Lemmer-Webber
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        @cstanhope @futurebird I mean we talk about people getting bad cases of the brainworms but he literally has got one

        anyway just gonna leave this here https://theonion.com/rfk-jr-warns-mistress-that-condoms-cause-autism/

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        • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

          @cstanhope @futurebird I mean we talk about people getting bad cases of the brainworms but he literally has got one

          anyway just gonna leave this here https://theonion.com/rfk-jr-warns-mistress-that-condoms-cause-autism/

          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
          myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
          myrmepropagandist
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          @cwebber @cstanhope

          I'm am certain there are people with dozens of brain worms who are still caring people though.

          Did the worm eat his capacity for understanding that other people are also people? What part of the brain is that?

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          • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

            @cwebber @cstanhope

            I'm am certain there are people with dozens of brain worms who are still caring people though.

            Did the worm eat his capacity for understanding that other people are also people? What part of the brain is that?

            Christine Lemmer-WebberC This user is from outside of this forum
            Christine Lemmer-WebberC This user is from outside of this forum
            Christine Lemmer-Webber
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            @futurebird @cstanhope yeah true, empathy for the brainworm-havers-with-empathy

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            • Christine Lemmer-WebberC Christine Lemmer-Webber

              @futurebird @cstanhope yeah true, empathy for the brainworm-havers-with-empathy

              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
              myrmepropagandistF This user is from outside of this forum
              myrmepropagandist
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              @cwebber @cstanhope

              The typical things that we think of as "unintelligent" such as not knowing big words, or not understanding complex algorithms don't really stand out that much to me.

              I'm a short person and I need a step stool to reach a high shelf. Some people need that if they are dealing with a complex task.

              What brings out my disgust is these dudes who are basically short, but say "Oh I can reach the top shelf" and they just *can't.* Then there is emergency and everything breaks.

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              • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                @cwebber @cstanhope

                The typical things that we think of as "unintelligent" such as not knowing big words, or not understanding complex algorithms don't really stand out that much to me.

                I'm a short person and I need a step stool to reach a high shelf. Some people need that if they are dealing with a complex task.

                What brings out my disgust is these dudes who are basically short, but say "Oh I can reach the top shelf" and they just *can't.* Then there is emergency and everything breaks.

                Christine Lemmer-WebberC This user is from outside of this forum
                Christine Lemmer-WebberC This user is from outside of this forum
                Christine Lemmer-Webber
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                @futurebird @cstanhope well put!

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                • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                  @cwebber @cstanhope

                  I'm am certain there are people with dozens of brain worms who are still caring people though.

                  Did the worm eat his capacity for understanding that other people are also people? What part of the brain is that?

                  Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Madeleine Morris
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                  #25

                  @futurebird
                  The other day, he was saying that a keto diet cures schizophrenia - and looking at him, I think he's been trying to cure himself for a while. To no avail.

                  @cwebber @cstanhope

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                  • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                    I know one of the horsemen is called "Pestilence" but I didn't expect him to be a Kennedy.

                    So who are the other three?

                    I think I know who "War" is.

                    Lyle Solla-YatesL This user is from outside of this forum
                    Lyle Solla-YatesL This user is from outside of this forum
                    Lyle Solla-Yates
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                    @futurebird I think Noem is a good option for Death. Famine I think is Mr. Trump himself with his tariff policy and very strange ag subsidy ideas

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                    • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                      I have *tried* to understand RFK's perspective and more than any of these people nothing he does even makes much sense. There is a theme of cutting support for the general public. A kind of DIY (DIE) health care theme.

                      But, he seems to really think he's doing something coherent and I can't make any sense of it.

                      Sally StrangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                      Sally StrangeS This user is from outside of this forum
                      Sally Strange
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                      #27

                      @futurebird
                      The Behind the Bastards episodes about him help explain some of it, but it still doesn't make sense. Ultimately it was his choice to be arrogant about medical science and it wasn't a rational choice.

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                      • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                        I know one of the horsemen is called "Pestilence" but I didn't expect him to be a Kennedy.

                        So who are the other three?

                        I think I know who "War" is.

                        SchroedingerS This user is from outside of this forum
                        SchroedingerS This user is from outside of this forum
                        Schroedinger
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                        #28

                        @futurebird *Serious head on - sorry*

                        What the four horsemen imagery shows is that the writer did have a good insight into how you destroy a society. These four, nothing else, will destroy a nation.

                        And yes, the current US administration is enacting all of them, deliberately.

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                        • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                          I know one of the horsemen is called "Pestilence" but I didn't expect him to be a Kennedy.

                          So who are the other three?

                          I think I know who "War" is.

                          Nick BathumN This user is from outside of this forum
                          Nick BathumN This user is from outside of this forum
                          Nick Bathum
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                          @futurebird Happy Year of the Fire Horse

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                          • Madeleine MorrisR Madeleine Morris

                            @futurebird
                            The other day, he was saying that a keto diet cures schizophrenia - and looking at him, I think he's been trying to cure himself for a while. To no avail.

                            @cwebber @cstanhope

                            Kjerstin GjengedalK This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Kjerstin Gjengedal
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                            @Remittancegirl I remember reading this Reframe essay a while ago, and I think he might be on to something. If public health is a matter of taking personal responsibility for boosting one's own immune system, it becomes very easy to sort people into livers and diers, and the diers, by dying, are proving that they never deserved to live. If you're guided by supremacy, it's not a problem that people suffer and die, I suppose. @futurebird @cwebber @cstanhope

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                            • myrmepropagandistF myrmepropagandist

                              I have *tried* to understand RFK's perspective and more than any of these people nothing he does even makes much sense. There is a theme of cutting support for the general public. A kind of DIY (DIE) health care theme.

                              But, he seems to really think he's doing something coherent and I can't make any sense of it.

                              MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
                              MarianneN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Marianne
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                              @futurebird I assume whoever pays him the most and promises to shill his ideas and stuff gets the most support from him. In some cases he knows better (environmental policy, I would assume). In others (medicine/health) he's an ignorant shit and just rattles off a bunch of nonsense. It's all about the in-group, what's trendy with the targets, fads.
                              He's got the fucking food babe feeding him complete lies. Probably asking chatgpt which is also regurgitating all the quacks' views ever. Just a shitstorm.

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