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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

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  • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

    @stefan @briankrebs It’s not. On the Fediverse they can’t make people verify themselves with ID documents but on this new platform they’re making, they can do that.

    Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
    Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
    Stefan Bohacek
    wrote last edited by
    #21

    @MisuseCase Yep, that's what I'm thinking. https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/115929732351043465

    @briankrebs

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    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

      Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

      "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

      https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

      John BreenJ This user is from outside of this forum
      John BreenJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #22

      @stefan "European organizations" like who ? Also, this is going nowhere.

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      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

        Comfortably NumbN This user is from outside of this forum
        Comfortably NumbN This user is from outside of this forum
        Comfortably Numb
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        #23

        @stefan

        *There are 5 competing social media networks*

        - This is so stupid! We need to create one that will combine and unite all the users!

        *Result: there are 6 competing social media networks*

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        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

          https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

          🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
          🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
          🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:
          wrote last edited by
          #24

          @stefan ... wait, are you telling me this isn't satire?

          Seriously? Another silo?

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          • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

            Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

            "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

            https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

            #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

            Analog AIR This user is from outside of this forum
            Analog AIR This user is from outside of this forum
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            #25

            @stefan Y

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            • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

              https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

              Celia ValdeolmillosA This user is from outside of this forum
              Celia ValdeolmillosA This user is from outside of this forum
              Celia Valdeolmillos
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              #26

              @stefan good press stunt. Won,t go anywhere. Identification? No way. If they want, they have the fediverse with european isntances, and anyone can create their own. Again, this is not going anywhere, It looks like a show for the press and nothing more.

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              • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                @slothrop Yeah, this is what I'm thinking.

                Celia ValdeolmillosA This user is from outside of this forum
                Celia ValdeolmillosA This user is from outside of this forum
                Celia Valdeolmillos
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                #27

                @stefan @slothrop same here. Four weeks? Too much time, I give it two maximum.

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                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                  But then again, maybe this is why.

                  "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

                  Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

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                  #28

                  @stefan Just because Europe's in a spat with America right now, I would like it to be more but am not that optimistic, doesn't mean they don't want to control and amass proffit from those who use the platform. You can't do that with the fediverse.

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                  • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                    https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                    #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                    Mathew StormS This user is from outside of this forum
                    Mathew StormS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote last edited by
                    #29

                    @stefan

                    If it's anything like similar startups (see Gander in Canada), they are going to spend lots of time on marketing material to investors, and little time on creating something actually useful

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                    • RocketmanS Rocketman

                      @stefan looks like a Davos stunt, a bid for LinkedIn fame.

                      I’m fairly confident we’ll have forgotten the whole thing in under four weeks from now.

                      the elder seaE This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #30

                      @slothrop
                      WinkedIn lol
                      @stefan

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                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                        But then again, maybe this is why.

                        "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

                        Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

                        Dead Inside :archlinux: & 🐸D This user is from outside of this forum
                        Dead Inside :archlinux: & 🐸D This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #31

                        @stefan Yeah, that tracks.

                        Someone lobbied some EU suits with 'how about we make our own, with blackjack, hookers, and blockchain, AND CHAT SURVEILLANCE ALREADY BUILT IN!' and all they had to do is slip a couple hundred million into some large telco's pockets to create that failure...

                        Classic modus operandi in EU for stuff like that.

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                        • Jon Payne SrL Jon Payne Sr

                          @stefan I aplaud the effort. I think the world might be different today if social media had begun with a requirement for positive ID, instead of being able to hide behind a pseudonym.

                          Captain Jack SparrowC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #32

                          @Lockpro @stefan

                          Yeah that works fine, until you start asking things like "Is the EU Complicit in the Genocide of Palestine", and then you get labelled as an agitator or a terrorist and they come knocking at your door.

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                          • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                            Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                            "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                            https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                            #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                            Dane DeasyD This user is from outside of this forum
                            Dane DeasyD This user is from outside of this forum
                            Dane Deasy
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                            #33

                            @stefan I wish they wouldn’t say “amid rising tensions” when they just mean Trump is a piece of shit.

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                            • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                              https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                              A Sentient Glue BottleT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #34

                              @stefan all the "W" marketing is so low rent and cringe it's impossible to take seriously

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                              • Dead Inside :archlinux: & 🐸D Dead Inside :archlinux: & 🐸

                                @stefan Yeah, that tracks.

                                Someone lobbied some EU suits with 'how about we make our own, with blackjack, hookers, and blockchain, AND CHAT SURVEILLANCE ALREADY BUILT IN!' and all they had to do is slip a couple hundred million into some large telco's pockets to create that failure...

                                Classic modus operandi in EU for stuff like that.

                                Daniel JamesT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #35

                                @deadinside @stefan yeah, this sounds like an end-run around the Chat Control defeats last year

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                                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                  Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                  "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                  https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                  #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                  Paul ShryockP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Paul ShryockP This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Paul Shryock
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                                  #36

                                  @stefan people will do literally anything to avoid building on top of web standards.

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                                  • L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ

                                    @stefan @Lockpro The issue never was anonymity, but lack of accountability. Both for platforms and users.
                                    If you post something vile, your account is suspended and it's a hassle to re-register you'll think twice before doing it again. But the current socal media standard¹ is you can post something vile with your full name and employer visible and still continue as if there's no problem.
                                    ___
                                    ¹ As per numerous examples on Facebook and x/Twitter

                                    Stuart :progress_pride:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #37

                                    @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro Exactly this. Plus, if you ever experienced long-term bullying at school or work you very likely knew exactly who was doing the bullying. Knowing who it was didn't stop it. Accountability is what matters.

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                                    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                      Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                      "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                      https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                      cshC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #38

                                      @stefan
                                      My only question: is W to X as HAL was to IBM?

                                      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                        Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #39

                                        @stefan

                                        Let them know, its ignorance, get help from eu official accounts already on.

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                                        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                          https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                                          @stefan seems like addressing the underlying problem of social platforms not offering any interoperability or data portability would be more useful.

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