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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

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  • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

    But then again, maybe this is why.

    "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

    Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

    Dead Inside :archlinux: & 🐸D This user is from outside of this forum
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    #31

    @stefan Yeah, that tracks.

    Someone lobbied some EU suits with 'how about we make our own, with blackjack, hookers, and blockchain, AND CHAT SURVEILLANCE ALREADY BUILT IN!' and all they had to do is slip a couple hundred million into some large telco's pockets to create that failure...

    Classic modus operandi in EU for stuff like that.

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    • Jon Payne SrL Jon Payne Sr

      @stefan I aplaud the effort. I think the world might be different today if social media had begun with a requirement for positive ID, instead of being able to hide behind a pseudonym.

      Captain Jack SparrowC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #32

      @Lockpro @stefan

      Yeah that works fine, until you start asking things like "Is the EU Complicit in the Genocide of Palestine", and then you get labelled as an agitator or a terrorist and they come knocking at your door.

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      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

        Dane DeasyD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #33

        @stefan I wish they wouldn’t say “amid rising tensions” when they just mean Trump is a piece of shit.

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        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

          https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

          A Sentient Glue BottleT This user is from outside of this forum
          A Sentient Glue BottleT This user is from outside of this forum
          A Sentient Glue Bottle
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          #34

          @stefan all the "W" marketing is so low rent and cringe it's impossible to take seriously

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          • Dead Inside :archlinux: & 🐸D Dead Inside :archlinux: & 🐸

            @stefan Yeah, that tracks.

            Someone lobbied some EU suits with 'how about we make our own, with blackjack, hookers, and blockchain, AND CHAT SURVEILLANCE ALREADY BUILT IN!' and all they had to do is slip a couple hundred million into some large telco's pockets to create that failure...

            Classic modus operandi in EU for stuff like that.

            Daniel JamesT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #35

            @deadinside @stefan yeah, this sounds like an end-run around the Chat Control defeats last year

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            • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

              https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

              Paul ShryockP This user is from outside of this forum
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              Paul Shryock
              wrote last edited by
              #36

              @stefan people will do literally anything to avoid building on top of web standards.

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              • L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ

                @stefan @Lockpro The issue never was anonymity, but lack of accountability. Both for platforms and users.
                If you post something vile, your account is suspended and it's a hassle to re-register you'll think twice before doing it again. But the current socal media standard¹ is you can post something vile with your full name and employer visible and still continue as if there's no problem.
                ___
                ¹ As per numerous examples on Facebook and x/Twitter

                Stuart :progress_pride:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                #37

                @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro Exactly this. Plus, if you ever experienced long-term bullying at school or work you very likely knew exactly who was doing the bullying. Knowing who it was didn't stop it. Accountability is what matters.

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                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                  Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                  "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                  https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                  #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                  cshC This user is from outside of this forum
                  cshC This user is from outside of this forum
                  csh
                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  @stefan
                  My only question: is W to X as HAL was to IBM?

                  #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                  • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                    https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                    #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                    Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #39

                    @stefan

                    Let them know, its ignorance, get help from eu official accounts already on.

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                    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                      Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                      "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                      https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                      #40

                      @stefan seems like addressing the underlying problem of social platforms not offering any interoperability or data portability would be more useful.

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                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                        Riley S. FaelanR This user is from outside of this forum
                        Riley S. FaelanR This user is from outside of this forum
                        Riley S. Faelan
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                        #41

                        @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

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                        • Riley S. FaelanR Riley S. Faelan

                          @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

                          Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Stefan Bohacek
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                          #42

                          @riley That would definitely be great!

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                          • SzescstopniS Szescstopni

                            @stefan Great. Now China will launch Y and Russia Z. Alphabet remains stable.

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                            Joe W
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                            #43

                            @Szescstopni @stefan Nah, Alphabet failed with their attempt (Google Plus)

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                            • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                              https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                              LGS
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                              #44

                              @stefan I think they should have gone with Y. As in "WHY aren't they federating???"

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                              • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                But then again, maybe this is why.

                                "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

                                Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

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                                #45

                                @stefan technically, they could launch a Fediverse-compatible server and do ID verification there, but federate to the whole Fediverse

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                                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                  Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                  "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                  https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                  #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                  Oliver SchönrockO This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Oliver SchönrockO This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Oliver Schönrock
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                                  #46

                                  @stefan

                                  https://mastodon.social/@oschonrock/115931333812499459

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                                  • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                    https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                    #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                    VessOnSecurityB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    VessOnSecurityB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    VessOnSecurity
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                                    #47

                                    @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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                                    • VessOnSecurityB VessOnSecurity

                                      @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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                                      @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                                      Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

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                                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                        Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #49

                                        @stefan
                                        I think that's PR.
                                        Looks like a private company with Swedish connections and run by a Swiss person who worked in eBay.

                                        At least she's not efrom Amazon, Meta, Alphabet or MS.

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                                        • SamuelJohnsonS SamuelJohnson

                                          @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                                          Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

                                          VessOnSecurityB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          VessOnSecurity
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                                          #50

                                          @samueljohnson @stefan I *am* in the EU and have experienced it first-hand. The EU is a clueless, authoritarian bureaucracy, masquerading as a democracy. They try to legislate, regulate, and control every aspect of our lives, from how curved the bananas can be, to whether bottle caps should be attached to the bottles, want to scan our encrypted messages, and so on.

                                          (I'm not saying that the USA is any better; just different.)

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