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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

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  • L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ

    @stefan @Lockpro The issue never was anonymity, but lack of accountability. Both for platforms and users.
    If you post something vile, your account is suspended and it's a hassle to re-register you'll think twice before doing it again. But the current socal media standard¹ is you can post something vile with your full name and employer visible and still continue as if there's no problem.
    ___
    ¹ As per numerous examples on Facebook and x/Twitter

    Stuart :progress_pride:S This user is from outside of this forum
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    wrote last edited by
    #37

    @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro Exactly this. Plus, if you ever experienced long-term bullying at school or work you very likely knew exactly who was doing the bullying. Knowing who it was didn't stop it. Accountability is what matters.

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    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

      Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

      "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

      https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

      cshC This user is from outside of this forum
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      csh
      wrote last edited by
      #38

      @stefan
      My only question: is W to X as HAL was to IBM?

      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

        Kevin RussellK This user is from outside of this forum
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        Kevin Russell
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        #39

        @stefan

        Let them know, its ignorance, get help from eu official accounts already on.

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        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

          https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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          #40

          @stefan seems like addressing the underlying problem of social platforms not offering any interoperability or data portability would be more useful.

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          • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

            Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

            "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

            https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

            #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

            Riley S. FaelanR This user is from outside of this forum
            Riley S. FaelanR This user is from outside of this forum
            Riley S. Faelan
            wrote last edited by
            #41

            @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

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            • Riley S. FaelanR Riley S. Faelan

              @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

              Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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              Stefan Bohacek
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              #42

              @riley That would definitely be great!

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              • SzescstopniS Szescstopni

                @stefan Great. Now China will launch Y and Russia Z. Alphabet remains stable.

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                Joe W
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                #43

                @Szescstopni @stefan Nah, Alphabet failed with their attempt (Google Plus)

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                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                  Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                  "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                  https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                  #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                  LGS
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                  #44

                  @stefan I think they should have gone with Y. As in "WHY aren't they federating???"

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                  • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                    But then again, maybe this is why.

                    "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

                    Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

                    don Elías (como los buses) 🥨D This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #45

                    @stefan technically, they could launch a Fediverse-compatible server and do ID verification there, but federate to the whole Fediverse

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                    • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                      Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                      "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                      https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                      #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                      Oliver SchönrockO This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Oliver Schönrock
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                      #46

                      @stefan

                      https://mastodon.social/@oschonrock/115931333812499459

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                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                        VessOnSecurityB This user is from outside of this forum
                        VessOnSecurityB This user is from outside of this forum
                        VessOnSecurity
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                        #47

                        @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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                        • VessOnSecurityB VessOnSecurity

                          @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

                          SamuelJohnsonS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          SamuelJohnson
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                          #48

                          @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                          Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

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                          • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                            Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                            "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                            https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                            #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                            Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Ray McCarthy
                            wrote last edited by
                            #49

                            @stefan
                            I think that's PR.
                            Looks like a private company with Swedish connections and run by a Swiss person who worked in eBay.

                            At least she's not efrom Amazon, Meta, Alphabet or MS.

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                            • SamuelJohnsonS SamuelJohnson

                              @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                              Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

                              VessOnSecurityB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              VessOnSecurity
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                              #50

                              @samueljohnson @stefan I *am* in the EU and have experienced it first-hand. The EU is a clueless, authoritarian bureaucracy, masquerading as a democracy. They try to legislate, regulate, and control every aspect of our lives, from how curved the bananas can be, to whether bottle caps should be attached to the bottles, want to scan our encrypted messages, and so on.

                              (I'm not saying that the USA is any better; just different.)

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                              • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                                @stefan It's a startup using big words, is all I can see. Not sure where this "European organisations" stuff comes from.

                                FediThing :progress_pride:F This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #51

                                @jwildeboer @stefan

                                Yup, this seems to just be some random startup's PR release without any official status.

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                                • VessOnSecurityB VessOnSecurity

                                  @samueljohnson @stefan I *am* in the EU and have experienced it first-hand. The EU is a clueless, authoritarian bureaucracy, masquerading as a democracy. They try to legislate, regulate, and control every aspect of our lives, from how curved the bananas can be, to whether bottle caps should be attached to the bottles, want to scan our encrypted messages, and so on.

                                  (I'm not saying that the USA is any better; just different.)

                                  SamuelJohnsonS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  SamuelJohnson
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                                  #52

                                  @bontchev @stefan > every aspect of our lives

                                  Arrant nonsense. And for this tripe you are muted. Bye.

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                                  • SamuelJohnsonS SamuelJohnson

                                    @bontchev @stefan > every aspect of our lives

                                    Arrant nonsense. And for this tripe you are muted. Bye.

                                    VessOnSecurityB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    VessOnSecurity
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                                    #53

                                    @samueljohnson @stefan As I said, I've experience it first-hand. Feel free to close your mind and not read what I write - it's your right to do so - but it won't change what I've experienced and it won't stop me from voicing my opinion.

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                                    • Comfortably NumbN Comfortably Numb

                                      @stefan

                                      *There are 5 competing social media networks*

                                      - This is so stupid! We need to create one that will combine and unite all the users!

                                      *Result: there are 6 competing social media networks*

                                      Comfortably NumbN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Comfortably Numb
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                                      #54

                                      @stefan ah this is what W is https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/115932181066382822

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                                      • Stuart :progress_pride:S Stuart :progress_pride:

                                        @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro Exactly this. Plus, if you ever experienced long-term bullying at school or work you very likely knew exactly who was doing the bullying. Knowing who it was didn't stop it. Accountability is what matters.

                                        L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ
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                                        #55

                                        @slowe @stefan @Lockpro An excellent AFK example. Class- or workmates know, teachers or bosses know, and as long as none of 'em do anything it'll continue.

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                                        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                          Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                          "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                          https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                          #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                          Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Stefan Bohacek
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #56

                                          Related: https://social.data.coop/@benjaoming/115933023306020430

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