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Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

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  • Riley S. FaelanR Riley S. Faelan

    @stefan Not necessarily. In the developing sitution, it might be about branding, but odds are good that it will interact with Fediverse.

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    #42

    @riley That would definitely be great!

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    • SzescstopniS Szescstopni

      @stefan Great. Now China will launch Y and Russia Z. Alphabet remains stable.

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      Joe W
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      #43

      @Szescstopni @stefan Nah, Alphabet failed with their attempt (Google Plus)

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      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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        @stefan I think they should have gone with Y. As in "WHY aren't they federating???"

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        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

          But then again, maybe this is why.

          "The new platform, W, will require identification and photo validation to ensure that its users are both humans and who they claim to be, Danish news media outlet Politiken.dk reports."

          Via https://mastodon.social/@dansup/115929520672656285

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          @stefan technically, they could launch a Fediverse-compatible server and do ID verification there, but federate to the whole Fediverse

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          • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

            Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

            "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

            https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

            #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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            @stefan

            https://mastodon.social/@oschonrock/115931333812499459

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            • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

              Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

              "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

              https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

              #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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              @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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              • VessOnSecurityB VessOnSecurity

                @stefan The fediverse is harder to control. The EU are control freaks.

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                @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

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                • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                  Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                  "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                  https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                  #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                  @stefan
                  I think that's PR.
                  Looks like a private company with Swedish connections and run by a Swiss person who worked in eBay.

                  At least she's not efrom Amazon, Meta, Alphabet or MS.

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                  • SamuelJohnsonS SamuelJohnson

                    @bontchev @stefan It's not an EU proposal. Obviously you don't have any clue how the EU works. The EU is an association of democracies that enacts legislation democratically.

                    Yes, EU citizens *choose* control in many areas where the US prefers none. From a European perspective a country that prefers to tolerate school shootings and which elects a moron who demands the territory of allies is one with many out of control freaks.

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                    @samueljohnson @stefan I *am* in the EU and have experienced it first-hand. The EU is a clueless, authoritarian bureaucracy, masquerading as a democracy. They try to legislate, regulate, and control every aspect of our lives, from how curved the bananas can be, to whether bottle caps should be attached to the bottles, want to scan our encrypted messages, and so on.

                    (I'm not saying that the USA is any better; just different.)

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                    • Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:J Jan Wildeboer 😷:krulorange:

                      @stefan It's a startup using big words, is all I can see. Not sure where this "European organisations" stuff comes from.

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                      @jwildeboer @stefan

                      Yup, this seems to just be some random startup's PR release without any official status.

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                      • VessOnSecurityB VessOnSecurity

                        @samueljohnson @stefan I *am* in the EU and have experienced it first-hand. The EU is a clueless, authoritarian bureaucracy, masquerading as a democracy. They try to legislate, regulate, and control every aspect of our lives, from how curved the bananas can be, to whether bottle caps should be attached to the bottles, want to scan our encrypted messages, and so on.

                        (I'm not saying that the USA is any better; just different.)

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                        @bontchev @stefan > every aspect of our lives

                        Arrant nonsense. And for this tripe you are muted. Bye.

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                        • SamuelJohnsonS SamuelJohnson

                          @bontchev @stefan > every aspect of our lives

                          Arrant nonsense. And for this tripe you are muted. Bye.

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                          @samueljohnson @stefan As I said, I've experience it first-hand. Feel free to close your mind and not read what I write - it's your right to do so - but it won't change what I've experienced and it won't stop me from voicing my opinion.

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                          • Comfortably NumbN Comfortably Numb

                            @stefan

                            *There are 5 competing social media networks*

                            - This is so stupid! We need to create one that will combine and unite all the users!

                            *Result: there are 6 competing social media networks*

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                            @stefan ah this is what W is https://mastodon.ar.al/@aral/115932181066382822

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                            • Stuart :progress_pride:S Stuart :progress_pride:

                              @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro Exactly this. Plus, if you ever experienced long-term bullying at school or work you very likely knew exactly who was doing the bullying. Knowing who it was didn't stop it. Accountability is what matters.

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                              @slowe @stefan @Lockpro An excellent AFK example. Class- or workmates know, teachers or bosses know, and as long as none of 'em do anything it'll continue.

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                              • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                                Related: https://social.data.coop/@benjaoming/115933023306020430

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                                • L'égrégore André ꕭꕬM L'égrégore André ꕭꕬ

                                  @stefan @Lockpro The issue never was anonymity, but lack of accountability. Both for platforms and users.
                                  If you post something vile, your account is suspended and it's a hassle to re-register you'll think twice before doing it again. But the current socal media standard¹ is you can post something vile with your full name and employer visible and still continue as if there's no problem.
                                  ___
                                  ¹ As per numerous examples on Facebook and x/Twitter

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                                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@aslakr/115933140926774633

                                  @Mabande @stefan @Lockpro And W Social seem to think that the only way to have accountability is to use «real names»

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                                  • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                    Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                    "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                    https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                    #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

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                                    @stefan it's not "European organizations", it's one rich Swiss techbro trying to capitalize on the situation and get rich off of harvesting people's data herself instead of having American companies do it

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                                    • hazelnot :yell:H hazelnot :yell:

                                      @stefan it's not "European organizations", it's one rich Swiss techbro trying to capitalize on the situation and get rich off of harvesting people's data herself instead of having American companies do it

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                                      @hazelnot Yes, the article really isn't doing a great job of explaining this initiative, appreciate everyone adding context in the replies!

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                                      • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                        Considering how popular the fediverse already is with at least some of the public institutions in Europe, this is a puzzling move.

                                        "European organizations are about to launch their own social media platform, W, amid rising tensions with the United States."

                                        https://cybernews.com/tech/europe-social-media-w/

                                        #news #TechNews #technology #SocialMedia #W

                                        Stefan BohacekS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Hm, so it might actually be powered by ATproto?

                                        https://atprotocol.dev/w-for-atproto/

                                        Interesting.

                                        #W #SocialMedia #ATproto #atmosphere #bluesky

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                                        • Stefan BohacekS Stefan Bohacek

                                          Hm, so it might actually be powered by ATproto?

                                          https://atprotocol.dev/w-for-atproto/

                                          Interesting.

                                          #W #SocialMedia #ATproto #atmosphere #bluesky

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                                          @stefan I hope it will at least be an independent deployment! What a bullshit… They could use real standards…

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