soo where's the foss federated discord alternative at?
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soo where's the foss federated discord alternative at?
spacebar and stoat seem to still be a ways out, having something API compatible (spacebar) that makes it easy to port over bots and use existing clients sounds extremely promising (mobile apps maybe a lil harder but still very achievable)
but oh boy both these alternatives are so not ready for the main stage...
Is anyone looking at getting these projects funded?
@cas@social.treehouse.systems fluxer looks the best, but it need a bit more work - maybe 1-2 weeks
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@cas@social.treehouse.systems fluxer looks the best, but it need a bit more work - maybe 1-2 weeks
@stephanie @cas Fluxer is federated???
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soo where's the foss federated discord alternative at?
spacebar and stoat seem to still be a ways out, having something API compatible (spacebar) that makes it easy to port over bots and use existing clients sounds extremely promising (mobile apps maybe a lil harder but still very achievable)
but oh boy both these alternatives are so not ready for the main stage...
Is anyone looking at getting these projects funded?
@cas XMPP has potential with movim working to implement discord like stuff
And Fluxer got rid of their CLA and they said they plan to implement federation eventually, with people already seeming to like it as a discord alternative, so there’s that I guess. Tho they have a bluesky account instead of a fediverse one so that’s kind of a red flag.
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@stephanie @cas Fluxer is federated???
@crse@social.linux.pizza @cas@social.treehouse.systems currently is not, but developing federation is top priority currently
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@crse xmpp is closer than matrix (in that it has user status messages) but both are severely lacking in a whole host of ways:
* slick reliable UX (matrix sync is still laughable)
* guilds/servers
* voice "channels" (not calls!)
* easy custom emotes
* server side moderation/rewrite history - absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for delete events to federate
* all the other moderation tools, roles, permission management, anti-raid/spam mechanismsThe UX and reliability is really what matters though, i have a bunch of friends who all use discord and won't be willing to leave unless the large and small communities they're a part of do as well... We don't necessarily need feature parity today but we need something good enough to get early adopters
heck pmOS uses matrix and we would benefit hugely from having custom roles to help identify people and let us quickly reach people who maybe own or work on a particular device for example
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@crse@social.linux.pizza @cas@social.treehouse.systems currently is not, but developing federation is top priority currently
@stephanie @crse that looks really promising! thanks
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@crse xmpp is closer than matrix (in that it has user status messages) but both are severely lacking in a whole host of ways:
* slick reliable UX (matrix sync is still laughable)
* guilds/servers
* voice "channels" (not calls!)
* easy custom emotes
* server side moderation/rewrite history - absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for delete events to federate
* all the other moderation tools, roles, permission management, anti-raid/spam mechanismsThe UX and reliability is really what matters though, i have a bunch of friends who all use discord and won't be willing to leave unless the large and small communities they're a part of do as well... We don't necessarily need feature parity today but we need something good enough to get early adopters
heck pmOS uses matrix and we would benefit hugely from having custom roles to help identify people and let us quickly reach people who maybe own or work on a particular device for example
@cas yes yes yes! so many people suggesting alternatives have no clue the moderation options that discord offers and how useful they are to different kinds of community
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soo where's the foss federated discord alternative at?
spacebar and stoat seem to still be a ways out, having something API compatible (spacebar) that makes it easy to port over bots and use existing clients sounds extremely promising (mobile apps maybe a lil harder but still very achievable)
but oh boy both these alternatives are so not ready for the main stage...
Is anyone looking at getting these projects funded?
@cas Fluxer is FOSS and has federation as a part of its 2026 roadmap.
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@crse xmpp is closer than matrix (in that it has user status messages) but both are severely lacking in a whole host of ways:
* slick reliable UX (matrix sync is still laughable)
* guilds/servers
* voice "channels" (not calls!)
* easy custom emotes
* server side moderation/rewrite history - absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for delete events to federate
* all the other moderation tools, roles, permission management, anti-raid/spam mechanismsThe UX and reliability is really what matters though, i have a bunch of friends who all use discord and won't be willing to leave unless the large and small communities they're a part of do as well... We don't necessarily need feature parity today but we need something good enough to get early adopters
heck pmOS uses matrix and we would benefit hugely from having custom roles to help identify people and let us quickly reach people who maybe own or work on a particular device for example
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soo where's the foss federated discord alternative at?
spacebar and stoat seem to still be a ways out, having something API compatible (spacebar) that makes it easy to port over bots and use existing clients sounds extremely promising (mobile apps maybe a lil harder but still very achievable)
but oh boy both these alternatives are so not ready for the main stage...
Is anyone looking at getting these projects funded?
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@penguin42 @crse muuuch nicer UX, client support ofc, the whole model is quite different and just a lot more seamless
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@crse xmpp is closer than matrix (in that it has user status messages) but both are severely lacking in a whole host of ways:
* slick reliable UX (matrix sync is still laughable)
* guilds/servers
* voice "channels" (not calls!)
* easy custom emotes
* server side moderation/rewrite history - absolutely ridiculous to have to wait for delete events to federate
* all the other moderation tools, roles, permission management, anti-raid/spam mechanismsThe UX and reliability is really what matters though, i have a bunch of friends who all use discord and won't be willing to leave unless the large and small communities they're a part of do as well... We don't necessarily need feature parity today but we need something good enough to get early adopters
heck pmOS uses matrix and we would benefit hugely from having custom roles to help identify people and let us quickly reach people who maybe own or work on a particular device for example
@cas I'd have thought that "New Conversation > New Video Room" would have made the list for a voice room
It just idles there, with people able to drop in and out as they please, and no explicit "Start Call"
(It falls down in other ways, like the inability to see which users are currently in the room, but that's a smaller lift than "Missing entirely")
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