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  3. All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

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  • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

    All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

    We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

    Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

    dotmavriqD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @akareilly I would suggest a "Haitian revolution approach" to this, if you will.

    So more people than ever are capable of salvaging vast amounts of information, granted that it's not "forbidden" or illicit and granted that the action of doing so is being monitored as you do it so bare that in mind... but it's still true! As stochastic and flawed as these models are you could immediately use it mindfully to emancipate yourself. Not by letting it "do your job", that's ... one can hypothesize on what that leads to... but especially when it comes to building tooling that improves the lives of everyone for free! Use it to understand frugality, life strategies, necessary career trajectory... and THEN don't use it.

    Because as a software programmer I can already confidently tell you that we're navigating a horrible landscape where even entertainment itself is being compromised and online communication, from computer to phone, to the operating systems, apps we use to do vital work, bank statements, life planning...every single piece of that is audited WHEN IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE. A lot of these things are simpler to learn how to make than learning how to knit. And we could and we should. The more we build to become self-reliant the more we starve the giant that gave us the opportunity. We know what we need, they sell us solutions to problems we do not have. #TheyknowWeknowTheyLie
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    • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

      All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

      We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

      Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

      KarlK This user is from outside of this forum
      KarlK This user is from outside of this forum
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      @akareilly that's because venture capital is interested in pouring money into the present, not the future

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      • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

        All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

        We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

        Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

        Jérémy PagèsJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jérémy PagèsJ This user is from outside of this forum
        Jérémy Pagès
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        @akareilly Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

        What could have been avoided are the dire economical and social consequences of covid craziness.

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        • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

          All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

          We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

          Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

          Mitex LeoM This user is from outside of this forum
          Mitex LeoM This user is from outside of this forum
          Mitex Leo
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          @akareilly We could solve the global hunger problem and climate crisis with that kind of money.

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          • Jérémy PagèsJ Jérémy Pagès

            @akareilly Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

            What could have been avoided are the dire economical and social consequences of covid craziness.

            Misuse CaseM This user is from outside of this forum
            Misuse CaseM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @jpages @akareilly >> Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

            Even if this were true it would be basically “I don’t care if Grandma dies, I want to go out drinking.”

            It makes you sound like a sociopath.

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            • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

              All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

              We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

              Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

              LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
              LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
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              @akareilly

              I’ve been blocking people for whining about this. 30 years I spent writing code every day just for the love of it.

              Whenever I asked for help or applied for a job, I got yelled at and called names. Merit never entered into anything in the abusive and bigoted tech sector.

              And now those same abusers cry because they’re the ones being unfairly locked out?

              …

              Cry some more.

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              • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

                @jpages @akareilly >> Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

                Even if this were true it would be basically “I don’t care if Grandma dies, I want to go out drinking.”

                It makes you sound like a sociopath.

                always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
                always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
                always tired
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                @MisuseCase @jpages@mastodon.online @akareilly

                I block this kind of eugenics/social darwinism on sight.

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                • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                  All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                  We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                  Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                  NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                  NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

                  Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

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                  • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                    All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                    We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                    Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                    Windy cityP This user is from outside of this forum
                    Windy cityP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @akareilly to put these massive AI investments into perspective a little more.

                    https://tulana.thatshubham.com

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                    • always tiredP always tired

                      @MisuseCase @jpages@mastodon.online @akareilly

                      I block this kind of eugenics/social darwinism on sight.

                      Wren ReillyA This user is from outside of this forum
                      Wren ReillyA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @project1enigma @MisuseCase Also blocked. One because it’s an antisocial eugenicist take, and because it’s not even accurate. Olympic athletes died or ended up with Long COVID.

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                      • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                        All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                        We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                        Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                        crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                        crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @akareilly But 5 people have all the world's money, and that was the whole point.

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                        • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                          @project1enigma @MisuseCase Also blocked. One because it’s an antisocial eugenicist take, and because it’s not even accurate. Olympic athletes died or ended up with Long COVID.

                          always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
                          always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @akareilly @MisuseCase Yeah to both. But those people often just don't acknowledge LC at all.

                          Or they go hardcore "who gets sick hasn't deserved staying healthy" too, alongside "those who die didn't deserve to live longer". 🙃

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                          • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

                            @jpages @akareilly >> Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

                            Even if this were true it would be basically “I don’t care if Grandma dies, I want to go out drinking.”

                            It makes you sound like a sociopath.

                            crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                            crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @MisuseCase @jpages @akareilly Yeah, the fact that they don't give a fuck about even their own grandparents was the first real eye opener for me.

                            They also don't give a fuck about the next generations. Why should they get any benefits when MY life was this or that... "My sister had to pay back her loans."

                            Just selfish pieces of shit that will lie and say they believe in things like freedom of expression and fuck if they do!

                            Yep, "Grandma can die," was the first eye opener.

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                            • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                              All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                              We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                              Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                              Ω 🌍 Gus PoseyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Ω 🌍 Gus Posey
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                              @akareilly It is a ruination, and the casual users who made it possible deserve random shocks throughout the day.

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                              • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                                All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                                We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                                Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                                decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                decapitae
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                                @akareilly Welcome to oligarcorporokhaskisnazi land. We had snacks, but now we'll just take yours. 😞

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                                • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                                  All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                                  We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                                  Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                                  Emily Vale, GendermancerS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Emily Vale, GendermancerS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Emily Vale, Gendermancer
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                                  @akareilly the billionaire rapists that run everything hate us. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they just don't see us as people, but rather as resources to exploit for money and gratification.

                                  We're not going to get any of that or anything else that we all deserve while we're governed by people that want to extract misery from us for their own benefit. Not without uniting and fighting for it, talking what is due it for all of us.

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                                  • Emily Vale, GendermancerS Emily Vale, Gendermancer

                                    @akareilly the billionaire rapists that run everything hate us. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they just don't see us as people, but rather as resources to exploit for money and gratification.

                                    We're not going to get any of that or anything else that we all deserve while we're governed by people that want to extract misery from us for their own benefit. Not without uniting and fighting for it, talking what is due it for all of us.

                                    Emily Vale, GendermancerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Emily Vale, Gendermancer
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                                    @akareilly the most they've ever willingly parted with was enough to keep us from removing them from power while they decide how to deal with us for effectively.

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                                    • NetravenN Netraven

                                      @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

                                      Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

                                      K-ZO da SnowmanK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      K-ZO da Snowman
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                                      @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

                                      And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

                                      (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

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                                      • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

                                        @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

                                        And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

                                        (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

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                                        @kzodasnowman @Netraven @akareilly

                                        $350B that was actually earmarked for COVID and pandemic relief/infrastructure, and Biden *specifically* told cities to use it to hire, train, and arm police with anti-riot gear.

                                        Ugh, every time I think about it

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                                        • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

                                          @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

                                          And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

                                          (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

                                          NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Netraven
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                                          @kzodasnowman @akareilly

                                          Without getting into specifics, I’m responsible for ensuring life-safety compliance in one narrow area of school operations. Last year in California, Governor Newsom approved a $13 billion bond for school upgrades. I can tell you this much: I’ve been to nearly every school from Los Angeles to the Mexican border, and they desperately need the funding.

                                          So did that money actually reach schools? And how would anyone really know?

                                          Schools don’t plan for maintenance. There is effectively no maintenance budget. When money does get spent, it’s usually on major capital upgrades that have been in motion for years. Those projects are designed with the assumption that bond funding will be available, because that’s how the system has always worked. Voters assume their money is going somewhere, or they may not realize that a school bond is really a 30-year property tax levy. It’s not “government funding.” It’s the public paying directly.

                                          By the time projects go out to bid, a bond holder ultimately decides whether major upgrades happen at all. Since it’s cheaper to omit proper life-safety systems, those elements are often quietly removed at the last minute. Responsibility is pushed downhill until it lands with a subcontractor, who is expected to do the work without objection... or not get paid. Even the state DSA is either complicit or completely disconnected from reality. Either way, they’re ineffective.

                                          In the end, there are no real checks or balances. No one is truly watching. This is why it keeps happening. Schools have effectively become glorified real-estate managers who also happen to oversee children.

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