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  3. All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

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  • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

    All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

    We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

    Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

    LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
    LillaVeeL This user is from outside of this forum
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    @akareilly

    I’ve been blocking people for whining about this. 30 years I spent writing code every day just for the love of it.

    Whenever I asked for help or applied for a job, I got yelled at and called names. Merit never entered into anything in the abusive and bigoted tech sector.

    And now those same abusers cry because they’re the ones being unfairly locked out?

    …

    Cry some more.

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    • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

      @jpages @akareilly >> Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

      Even if this were true it would be basically “I don’t care if Grandma dies, I want to go out drinking.”

      It makes you sound like a sociopath.

      always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
      always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
      always tired
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      @MisuseCase @jpages@mastodon.online @akareilly

      I block this kind of eugenics/social darwinism on sight.

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      • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

        All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

        We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

        Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
        NetravenN This user is from outside of this forum
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        #9

        @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

        Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

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        • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

          All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

          We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

          Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

          Windy cityP This user is from outside of this forum
          Windy cityP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #10

          @akareilly to put these massive AI investments into perspective a little more.

          https://tulana.thatshubham.com

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          • always tiredP always tired

            @MisuseCase @jpages@mastodon.online @akareilly

            I block this kind of eugenics/social darwinism on sight.

            Wren ReillyA This user is from outside of this forum
            Wren ReillyA This user is from outside of this forum
            Wren Reilly
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            #11

            @project1enigma @MisuseCase Also blocked. One because it’s an antisocial eugenicist take, and because it’s not even accurate. Olympic athletes died or ended up with Long COVID.

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            • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

              All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

              We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

              Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

              crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
              crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @akareilly But 5 people have all the world's money, and that was the whole point.

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              • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                @project1enigma @MisuseCase Also blocked. One because it’s an antisocial eugenicist take, and because it’s not even accurate. Olympic athletes died or ended up with Long COVID.

                always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
                always tiredP This user is from outside of this forum
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                #13

                @akareilly @MisuseCase Yeah to both. But those people often just don't acknowledge LC at all.

                Or they go hardcore "who gets sick hasn't deserved staying healthy" too, alongside "those who die didn't deserve to live longer". 🙃

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                • Misuse CaseM Misuse Case

                  @jpages @akareilly >> Median age for covid deaths is over 80 years old, so there is not much to be done here.

                  Even if this were true it would be basically “I don’t care if Grandma dies, I want to go out drinking.”

                  It makes you sound like a sociopath.

                  crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                  crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
                  crazyeddie
                  wrote last edited by
                  #14

                  @MisuseCase @jpages @akareilly Yeah, the fact that they don't give a fuck about even their own grandparents was the first real eye opener for me.

                  They also don't give a fuck about the next generations. Why should they get any benefits when MY life was this or that... "My sister had to pay back her loans."

                  Just selfish pieces of shit that will lie and say they believe in things like freedom of expression and fuck if they do!

                  Yep, "Grandma can die," was the first eye opener.

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                  • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                    All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                    We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                    Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                    Ω 🌍 Gus PoseyG This user is from outside of this forum
                    Ω 🌍 Gus PoseyG This user is from outside of this forum
                    Ω 🌍 Gus Posey
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                    #15

                    @akareilly It is a ruination, and the casual users who made it possible deserve random shocks throughout the day.

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                    • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                      All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                      We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                      Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                      decapitaeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @akareilly Welcome to oligarcorporokhaskisnazi land. We had snacks, but now we'll just take yours. 😞

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                      • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                        All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                        We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                        Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                        Emily Vale, GendermancerS This user is from outside of this forum
                        Emily Vale, GendermancerS This user is from outside of this forum
                        Emily Vale, Gendermancer
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                        @akareilly the billionaire rapists that run everything hate us. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they just don't see us as people, but rather as resources to exploit for money and gratification.

                        We're not going to get any of that or anything else that we all deserve while we're governed by people that want to extract misery from us for their own benefit. Not without uniting and fighting for it, talking what is due it for all of us.

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                        • Emily Vale, GendermancerS Emily Vale, Gendermancer

                          @akareilly the billionaire rapists that run everything hate us. Or maybe they don't. Maybe they just don't see us as people, but rather as resources to exploit for money and gratification.

                          We're not going to get any of that or anything else that we all deserve while we're governed by people that want to extract misery from us for their own benefit. Not without uniting and fighting for it, talking what is due it for all of us.

                          Emily Vale, GendermancerS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Emily Vale, Gendermancer
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                          @akareilly the most they've ever willingly parted with was enough to keep us from removing them from power while they decide how to deal with us for effectively.

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                          • NetravenN Netraven

                            @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

                            Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

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                            K-ZO da Snowman
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                            @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

                            And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

                            (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

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                            • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

                              @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

                              And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

                              (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

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                              @kzodasnowman @Netraven @akareilly

                              $350B that was actually earmarked for COVID and pandemic relief/infrastructure, and Biden *specifically* told cities to use it to hire, train, and arm police with anti-riot gear.

                              Ugh, every time I think about it

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                              • K-ZO da SnowmanK K-ZO da Snowman

                                @Netraven @akareilly to support this point; Biden and congress sent money to cops, money meant to upgrade schools' ventilation and filtration. Cities happily received that money. It always comes down to culture and power.

                                And I do believe we can change the culture and take the power.

                                (Edited to change my mis-remembering of the fund distribution)

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                                @kzodasnowman @akareilly

                                Without getting into specifics, I’m responsible for ensuring life-safety compliance in one narrow area of school operations. Last year in California, Governor Newsom approved a $13 billion bond for school upgrades. I can tell you this much: I’ve been to nearly every school from Los Angeles to the Mexican border, and they desperately need the funding.

                                So did that money actually reach schools? And how would anyone really know?

                                Schools don’t plan for maintenance. There is effectively no maintenance budget. When money does get spent, it’s usually on major capital upgrades that have been in motion for years. Those projects are designed with the assumption that bond funding will be available, because that’s how the system has always worked. Voters assume their money is going somewhere, or they may not realize that a school bond is really a 30-year property tax levy. It’s not “government funding.” It’s the public paying directly.

                                By the time projects go out to bid, a bond holder ultimately decides whether major upgrades happen at all. Since it’s cheaper to omit proper life-safety systems, those elements are often quietly removed at the last minute. Responsibility is pushed downhill until it lands with a subcontractor, who is expected to do the work without objection... or not get paid. Even the state DSA is either complicit or completely disconnected from reality. Either way, they’re ineffective.

                                In the end, there are no real checks or balances. No one is truly watching. This is why it keeps happening. Schools have effectively become glorified real-estate managers who also happen to oversee children.

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                                • NetravenN Netraven

                                  @akareilly As someone who has spent a lifetime working inside the system, genuinely trying to do good, and being consistently punished for it, I can tell you this: if it weren’t AI, it would be something else. The problem isn’t the technology. It’s that there is never real investment in what’s actually needed. Even when requirements are written into law, or when problems are merely complex rather than impossible, the system learns how to route around them. Compliance becomes performative. Safety becomes fictional.

                                  Industry, capitalism, and the people who steer them are optimizing very effectively, but in the wrong regime. A system oriented toward sustainability and durability would prioritize clean air in schools, hospitals, and public transit; renewable energy; and supply chains built on fair wages and genuinely safe working conditions. The fact that we don’t see this isn’t an accident or a failure of execution. It’s evidence of what the system is truly optimizing for: end-of-horizon exit optionality, not long-term human well-being.

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                                  @Netraven @akareilly

                                  The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

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                                  • JohnJ John

                                    @Netraven @akareilly

                                    The joke's on them, though: there *is* no end-of-horizon exit optionality in global ecological collapses, and 2 sq mile bunkers don't work if nobody will work for you.

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                                    @johnzajac @akareilly

                                    well yes, of course. We know this because we're still in contact with reality. The people we're talking about have replaced contact with reality with symbols that become load-bearing instead. If you want to test which symbols are load bearing, just test which one shuts down conversation when mentioned.

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                                    • NetravenN Netraven

                                      @johnzajac @akareilly

                                      well yes, of course. We know this because we're still in contact with reality. The people we're talking about have replaced contact with reality with symbols that become load-bearing instead. If you want to test which symbols are load bearing, just test which one shuts down conversation when mentioned.

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                                      @Netraven @akareilly

                                      Fascism is all about symbols and aesthetics replacing substance, and the real trick is realizing we've been living under fascism and borrowing from previous eras of substance for most of the last 50 years.

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                                      • JohnJ John

                                        @Netraven @akareilly

                                        Fascism is all about symbols and aesthetics replacing substance, and the real trick is realizing we've been living under fascism and borrowing from previous eras of substance for most of the last 50 years.

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                                        Netraven
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                                        #25

                                        RE: https://hear-me.social/@Netraven/116010753140279169

                                        @johnzajac @akareilly

                                        I wrote about this recently but my brain is too tired to summarize.

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                                        • Wren ReillyA Wren Reilly

                                          All of that AI slop money could have gone to installing equipment for safe air in schools, hospitals, and public transit, powered by renewable energy with minerals mined by people receiving fair wages in a much safer workplace.

                                          We could have avoided the high death toll of COVID and prepared for the next pandemic.

                                          Instead we get even shittier code, abuse images, far-right bots, dodgy tech in healthcare, and even more precarious state of things for artists.

                                          Quincy ⁂Q This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @akareilly

                                          The slop industry is pure evil.

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