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  • draeathD draeath

    @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

    It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

    B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
    B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
    B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦
    wrote last edited by
    #47

    @draeath

    These MFers yeet DIRFT (Do it right the first time) and TQM principles to play hooky on the plinko and demand you call them a genius.

    @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

      AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
      AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
      Anthony
      wrote last edited by
      #48
      @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social An instance of eating the seed corn, I'd say ( https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1705679109.757852 ).
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      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

        Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
        Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
        Klaus Frank
        wrote last edited by
        #49

        @GossiTheDog can you please post this also over on LinkedIn for all of the corporate people and CEOs to see?

        We can't highlight how much of a liability generator all of this is...

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        • B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦

          @da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

          Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

          That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

          @GossiTheDog

          Ron BowesI This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #50

          @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog Hey, as somebody writing a CTF, it's handy to get randomly introduced vulnerabilities!

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          • cR0wC cR0w

            @GossiTheDog If only a significant number of security practitioners could have seen it coming and warned people.

            Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #51

            @cR0w @GossiTheDog

            Well I guess this must be what they meant by the saying "only idiots don't learn anything from their failures and smart people even learn from the failures of others, not just their own."

            #quote

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            • FennixF Fennix

              @cR0w @GossiTheDog

              Dusk to Don :raccoon:D This user is from outside of this forum
              Dusk to Don :raccoon:D This user is from outside of this forum
              Dusk to Don :raccoon:
              wrote last edited by
              #52

              @fennix @GossiTheDog

              I'd invite anyone to enjoy the collection of content at #directoryTraversalMemes

              (with @cR0w being a delightful contributor)

              E.g.
              https://infosec.exchange/@cR0w/115663258594893751

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              • Richard HughesH Richard Hughes

                @GossiTheDog I guess the AI security scanners will clean this up with their automated scan and CVE requests.</joke>

                Josh BressersJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Josh BressersJ This user is from outside of this forum
                Josh Bressers
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                #53

                @hughsie @GossiTheDog It’s the circle of life. Extra points if the fix has new vulnerabilities in it!

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                • draeathD draeath

                  @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

                  ManniC This user is from outside of this forum
                  ManniC This user is from outside of this forum
                  Manni
                  wrote last edited by
                  #54

                  @draeath @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog not if you want to understand the system.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does

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                  • spinnyspinlockS spinnyspinlock

                    @GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

                    TrivT This user is from outside of this forum
                    TrivT This user is from outside of this forum
                    Triv
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                    #55

                    @spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social If github lists claude (or other LLMs) as one of the top contributors I consider that a red flag

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                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                      KyleW This user is from outside of this forum
                      KyleW This user is from outside of this forum
                      Kyle
                      wrote last edited by
                      #56

                      @GossiTheDog which framework?

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                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                        pinkforest(she/her) 🦀P This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #57

                        @GossiTheDog I feel sorry for all the persons named Claude https://github.com/search?q=claude&type=commits

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                        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                          Victor NavaV This user is from outside of this forum
                          Victor NavaV This user is from outside of this forum
                          Victor Nava
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                          #58

                          @GossiTheDog this happens when people don’t care nor use AI responsibly… we have to do proper reviews EVERY SINGLE TIME

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                          • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                            Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                            I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                            So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                            https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                            As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                            Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaintC This user is from outside of this forum
                            Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaintC This user is from outside of this forum
                            Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint
                            wrote last edited by
                            #59

                            @GossiTheDog but... Do these repositories all not have any review processes for their PRs?

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                            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                              Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                              I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                              So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                              https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                              As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                              Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                              Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                              Fritz Adalis
                              wrote last edited by
                              #60

                              @GossiTheDog
                              So just make a bot that goes around behind claude and files a vuln bug and lists the revert as the fix.

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                              • Fritz AdalisF Fritz Adalis

                                @GossiTheDog
                                So just make a bot that goes around behind claude and files a vuln bug and lists the revert as the fix.

                                Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                                Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                                Fritz Adalis
                                wrote last edited by
                                #61

                                @GossiTheDog
                                Nvm these are commits, not prs.

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                                • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                  Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                  I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                  So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                  https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                  As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                  seism0saurusS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  seism0saurusS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  seism0saurus
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #62

                                  @GossiTheDog

                                  Is there a cwe (common weakness enumeration) for AI slop usage already?

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                                  • kwayk42K kwayk42

                                    @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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                                    kwayk42
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #63

                                    @da_667 @GossiTheDog took me a while but I finally thought of something :

                                    Who says AI hasn't generated any real value? It's doing wonders for the threat actors

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                                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                      funnymonkeyF This user is from outside of this forum
                                      funnymonkeyF This user is from outside of this forum
                                      funnymonkey
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #64

                                      @GossiTheDog

                                      OMFG.

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                                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                        Sassinake! - ⊃∪∩⪽S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #65

                                        @GossiTheDog

                                        fuck.

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                                        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                          DaveA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          DaveA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Dave
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #66

                                          @GossiTheDog I'm anti-AI. I used program generators long ago - they didn't work. They aren't maintainable. Major updates required complete rewrites.

                                          Now there's AI. It's a manager's wet dream...until it isn't.

                                          ...but look how productive AI is. It can whip out code as fast as a gossip can spread noise. Sure, there will be glitches, but they'll be fixed when found.

                                          What about the $$$$$ liability of glitches that are not found?

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