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  • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

    Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

    I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

    So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

    https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

    As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

    Eric LiknessC This user is from outside of this forum
    Eric LiknessC This user is from outside of this forum
    Eric Likness
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    #43

    @GossiTheDog

    That Claude is a "clod", and boy does Claude get around I tell ya'. 🏃

    Claude is everywhere you want an exploit to be. 🚨

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    • draeathD draeath

      @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

      It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

      fuzzyfuzzyfungusF This user is from outside of this forum
      fuzzyfuzzyfungusF This user is from outside of this forum
      fuzzyfuzzyfungus
      wrote last edited by
      #44

      @draeath @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog That's what amazes me about the "hallucinated citations" stories. Making bots not hallucinate is certainly not readily feasible, quite possible infeasible in practice; but just checking citations one at a time for existence would have been cutting edge in maybe the 1960s. Why is anyone skipping such trivial cleanup steps when using a known-unreliable tool?

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      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

        C This user is from outside of this forum
        C This user is from outside of this forum
        claudex
        wrote last edited by
        #45

        @GossiTheDog in a few months, the user creation and password management will be a solved problem, every software will have a semi-public backdoor that everybody will use

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        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

          kpcyrd 🏴K This user is from outside of this forum
          kpcyrd 🏴K This user is from outside of this forum
          kpcyrd 🏴
          wrote last edited by
          #46

          @GossiTheDog what was the vulnerability you found in those search results over and over? I only get html and css stuff when I click that link.

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          • draeathD draeath

            @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

            It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

            B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
            B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
            B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦
            wrote last edited by
            #47

            @draeath

            These MFers yeet DIRFT (Do it right the first time) and TQM principles to play hooky on the plinko and demand you call them a genius.

            @da_667 @GossiTheDog

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            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

              Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

              I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

              So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

              https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

              As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

              AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
              AnthonyA This user is from outside of this forum
              Anthony
              wrote last edited by
              #48
              @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social An instance of eating the seed corn, I'd say ( https://buc.ci/abucci/p/1705679109.757852 ).
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              • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
                Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
                Klaus Frank
                wrote last edited by
                #49

                @GossiTheDog can you please post this also over on LinkedIn for all of the corporate people and CEOs to see?

                We can't highlight how much of a liability generator all of this is...

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                • B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦

                  @da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

                  Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

                  That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

                  @GossiTheDog

                  Ron BowesI This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ron BowesI This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ron Bowes
                  wrote last edited by
                  #50

                  @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog Hey, as somebody writing a CTF, it's handy to get randomly introduced vulnerabilities!

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                  • cR0wC cR0w

                    @GossiTheDog If only a significant number of security practitioners could have seen it coming and warned people.

                    Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
                    Klaus Frank
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                    #51

                    @cR0w @GossiTheDog

                    Well I guess this must be what they meant by the saying "only idiots don't learn anything from their failures and smart people even learn from the failures of others, not just their own."

                    #quote

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                    • FennixF Fennix

                      @cR0w @GossiTheDog

                      Dusk to Don :raccoon:D This user is from outside of this forum
                      Dusk to Don :raccoon:D This user is from outside of this forum
                      Dusk to Don :raccoon:
                      wrote last edited by
                      #52

                      @fennix @GossiTheDog

                      I'd invite anyone to enjoy the collection of content at #directoryTraversalMemes

                      (with @cR0w being a delightful contributor)

                      E.g.
                      https://infosec.exchange/@cR0w/115663258594893751

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                      • Richard HughesH Richard Hughes

                        @GossiTheDog I guess the AI security scanners will clean this up with their automated scan and CVE requests.</joke>

                        Josh BressersJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Josh BressersJ This user is from outside of this forum
                        Josh Bressers
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                        #53

                        @hughsie @GossiTheDog It’s the circle of life. Extra points if the fix has new vulnerabilities in it!

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                        • draeathD draeath

                          @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

                          ManniC This user is from outside of this forum
                          ManniC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Manni
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                          #54

                          @draeath @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog not if you want to understand the system.
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_purpose_of_a_system_is_what_it_does

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                          • spinnyspinlockS spinnyspinlock

                            @GossiTheDog I became used to checking projects I am checking out for claude (etc) in the source files and commits really fast

                            TrivT This user is from outside of this forum
                            TrivT This user is from outside of this forum
                            Triv
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                            #55

                            @spinnyspinlock@infosec.exchange @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social If github lists claude (or other LLMs) as one of the top contributors I consider that a red flag

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                            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                              Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                              I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                              So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                              https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                              As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                              KyleW This user is from outside of this forum
                              KyleW This user is from outside of this forum
                              Kyle
                              wrote last edited by
                              #56

                              @GossiTheDog which framework?

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                              • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                pinkforest(she/her) 🦀P This user is from outside of this forum
                                pinkforest(she/her) 🦀P This user is from outside of this forum
                                pinkforest(she/her) 🦀
                                wrote last edited by
                                #57

                                @GossiTheDog I feel sorry for all the persons named Claude https://github.com/search?q=claude&type=commits

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                                • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                  Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                  I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                  So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                  https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                  As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                  Victor NavaV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Victor NavaV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Victor Nava
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #58

                                  @GossiTheDog this happens when people don’t care nor use AI responsibly… we have to do proper reviews EVERY SINGLE TIME

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                                  • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                    Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                    I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                    So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                    https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                    As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                    Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaintC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaintC This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Yiming Wu ✅ Use OurPaint
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #59

                                    @GossiTheDog but... Do these repositories all not have any review processes for their PRs?

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                                    • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                      Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                      I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                      So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                      https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                      As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                      Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Fritz Adalis
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #60

                                      @GossiTheDog
                                      So just make a bot that goes around behind claude and files a vuln bug and lists the revert as the fix.

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                                      • Fritz AdalisF Fritz Adalis

                                        @GossiTheDog
                                        So just make a bot that goes around behind claude and files a vuln bug and lists the revert as the fix.

                                        Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Fritz AdalisF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Fritz Adalis
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #61

                                        @GossiTheDog
                                        Nvm these are commits, not prs.

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                                        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                                          seism0saurusS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          seism0saurusS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          seism0saurus
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #62

                                          @GossiTheDog

                                          Is there a cwe (common weakness enumeration) for AI slop usage already?

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