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The Great Migration 🚀

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  • ÆrionA Ærion

    @dansup
    > * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

    How about pointing to https://quicksy.im/ rather than Signal? And @snikket_im for those who prefer #selfhosting ?

    #Quicksy is by far the easiest way to get into #XMPP, and it behaves like WhatsApp (and Signal) users expect, with automatic contact discovery.

    We need truly open instant messaging, not more walled gardens. However much good Signal has done for privacy in IM, it is *not* the golden answer to WhatsApp, Telegram, and all the other monolithic platforms.

    @daniel
    @matrix @xmpp

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    Ærion
    wrote last edited by
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    @dansup

    @matrix @xmpp

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    • dansupD dansup

      The Great Migration 🚀

      X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
      IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
      FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
      TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
      YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
      WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

      Ethical. Federated. Open.

      Spread the word ✨

      ÆrionA This user is from outside of this forum
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      Ærion
      wrote last edited by
      #32

      @dansup
      > * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

      How about pointing to https://quicksy.im/ rather than Signal? And @snikket_im for those who prefer #selfhosting ?

      #Quicksy is by far the easiest way to get into #XMPP, and it behaves like WhatsApp (and Signal) users expect, with automatic contact discovery.

      We need truly open instant messaging, not more walled gardens. However much good Signal has done for privacy in IM, it is *not* the golden answer to WhatsApp, Telegram, and all the other monolithic platforms.

      @daniel
      @matrix @xmpp

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      • dansupD dansup

        The Great Migration 🚀

        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

        Ethical. Federated. Open.

        Spread the word ✨

        Christian TietzeC This user is from outside of this forum
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        Christian Tietze
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        #33

        @dansup I forgot about Friendica when researching FB alternatives for community org! Thank you!

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        • dansupD dansup

          The Great Migration 🚀

          X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
          IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
          FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
          TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
          YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
          WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

          Ethical. Federated. Open.

          Spread the word ✨

          Lars Buhl SchamaitatL This user is from outside of this forum
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          Lars Buhl Schamaitat
          wrote last edited by
          #34

          @dansup @matrix @xmpp What about Olvid instead of Signal? Any experience? (We are testing it at home these days.)

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          • dansupD dansup

            The Great Migration 🚀

            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

            Ethical. Federated. Open.

            Spread the word ✨

            DickWhitmanD This user is from outside of this forum
            DickWhitmanD This user is from outside of this forum
            DickWhitman
            wrote last edited by
            #35

            @dansup But what if “we” don’t want the people left on X? 😉

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            • dansupD dansup

              The Great Migration 🚀

              X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
              IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
              FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
              TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
              YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
              WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

              Ethical. Federated. Open.

              Spread the word ✨

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              mHtt
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              #36

              @dansup @matrix @xmpp

              digg ---> reddit

              whops wrong decade!

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              • dansupD dansup

                The Great Migration 🚀

                X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                Ethical. Federated. Open.

                Spread the word ✨

                Le CalligrapheL This user is from outside of this forum
                Le CalligrapheL This user is from outside of this forum
                Le Calligraphe
                wrote last edited by
                #37

                @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                I recently heard about the holochain (currently at the end of development) that will start to make possible to build your own local SELF-hosted, decentralized and encrypted chat room (also cloud...)

                everything (redundancy mngt, encryption, storage split between servers, storage itself...) will be made by terminal of members of the chat room and no other server will be involved... (Thus it will request storage allocation from each member)

                not only the data are decentralized, but then also the infrastructure with the control of it

                That could be the next security & privacy revolution...

                Exemple :
                https://volla.online/en/volla-cloud/

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                • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

                  @techindepth27 @hyc It's dependent on the source of the app I think. When you get the self-updating APK from their website or from #fdroid through adding the @guardianproject repo it should be resolved.

                  Howard Chu @ SymasH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Howard Chu @ Symas
                  wrote last edited by
                  #38

                  @LightningToaster @techindepth27 @guardianproject Thanks I'll check where I installed it from and try fdroid.

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                  • Howard Chu @ SymasH Howard Chu @ Symas

                    @LightningToaster @techindepth27 @guardianproject Thanks I'll check where I installed it from and try fdroid.

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                    Radiation Craziness
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                    #39

                    @hyc Just a heads up, apparently the official F-droid app has some security issues and isn't recommended. I've used Neo-Store and @droidify Also as @LightningToaster mentioned, you'll need to add the @guardianproject repo in the settings to get Signal to show up

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                    • Martina NeumayerM Martina Neumayer

                      @kitkat Client app is open source, but not the server part. It isn't federated and additionally is very dependent on the aws infrastructure.

                      @dansup

                      Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Carlos Solís
                      wrote last edited by
                      #40
                      @MartinaNeumayer @dansup @kitkat Molly, a fork of Signal that, among other things, has already removed Signal's dependency on Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging by replacing it with UnifiedPush and their own MollySocket service, is also working to implement an open-source version of the server under the code name Flatline: github.com/mollyim/flatline-pl…
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                      • dansupD dansup

                        The Great Migration 🚀

                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                        Ethical. Federated. Open.

                        Spread the word ✨

                        GustavoQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Gustavo
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                        #41

                        @dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features! ) that makes me urge two things:

                        One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.

                        Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).

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                        • NéuroD Néuro

                          @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

                          peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

                          Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Carlos Solís
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                          As a user of Friendica for the last two years, I would have certainly agreed with you just a pair of weeks ago. Fortunately, the latest version of Friendica finally included the option to cache network channel data, at long last solving the problem of having to wait upwards of 30 seconds for the network tab to open. The "see more" option is an add-on for some reason, two in fact depending on which implementation you want to use, and either of them must be first enabled by the instance's administrator.

                          I also agree that there must be some way of making PeerTube natively compatible with subscriptions and "superchats", if we want YouTubers and livestreamers to be capable of using it as an actual replacement for their YT/Twitch channels. The only payment methods I've seen enabled for PeerTube as plug-ins are all cryptocurrency-based unfortunately.

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                          • BenB Ben

                            @dansup signal isnt open source or federated, is it?

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                            Miggi
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                            @ben @dansup It's open source

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                            • T Radiation Craziness

                              @hyc Just a heads up, apparently the official F-droid app has some security issues and isn't recommended. I've used Neo-Store and @droidify Also as @LightningToaster mentioned, you'll need to add the @guardianproject repo in the settings to get Signal to show up

                              Howard Chu @ SymasH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Howard Chu @ Symas
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                              #44

                              @techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.

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                              • zetabetaZ zetabeta

                                @hyc @dansup @matrix @xmpp
                                huawei uses harmonyos, which may not be compatible with android.
                                older phones used android.

                                Howard Chu @ SymasH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Howard Chu @ Symas
                                wrote last edited by
                                #45

                                @zetabeta this is a P60 Pro on de-googled Android.

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                                • Howard Chu @ SymasH Howard Chu @ Symas

                                  @techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.

                                  LightningToasterL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  LightningToaster
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #46

                                  @hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.

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                                  • dansupD dansup

                                    The Great Migration 🚀

                                    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                    Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                    Spread the word ✨

                                    RejZoRR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    RejZoR
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #47

                                    @dansup @matrix @xmpp Reddit -> Lemmy

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                                    • dansupD dansup

                                      The Great Migration 🚀

                                      X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                      IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                      FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                      TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                      YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                      WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                      Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                      Spread the word ✨

                                      UltrasonicMadness (he/him)U This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      UltrasonicMadness (he/him)
                                      wrote last edited by
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                                      @dansup I'm not convinced that an ethical version of #TikTok is possible - the entire premise is loss of time and cognitive function to a mini-parade of utterly inane rubbish.

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                                      • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

                                        @hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.

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                                        Radiation Craziness
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #49

                                        @LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/

                                        It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier

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                                        • NéuroD Néuro

                                          @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

                                          peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

                                          KalonK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Kalon
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #50

                                          Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

                                          To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

                                          Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

                                          @Drahngis

                                          @dansup

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