The Great Migration 🚀

@techindepth27 @hyc It's dependent on the source of the app I think. When you get the self-updating APK from their website or from #fdroid through adding the @guardianproject repo it should be resolved.

@hyc @dansup @matrix @xmpp
huawei uses harmonyos, which may not be compatible with android.
older phones used android.

@LightningToaster That would make sense I think I have the F-droid version

@dansup Thank you!

@dansup @matrix @xmpp Brother, how to fight the "Network Effect" that these Tech Giants' apps already have?

@dansup

@matrix @xmpp

@dansup
> * - I know signal isn't federated, consider @matrix or @xmpp alternatively

How about pointing to https://quicksy.im/ rather than Signal? And @snikket_im for those who prefer #selfhosting ?

#Quicksy is by far the easiest way to get into #XMPP, and it behaves like WhatsApp (and Signal) users expect, with automatic contact discovery.

We need truly open instant messaging, not more walled gardens. However much good Signal has done for privacy in IM, it is *not* the golden answer to WhatsApp, Telegram, and all the other monolithic platforms.

@daniel
@matrix @xmpp

@dansup I forgot about Friendica when researching FB alternatives for community org! Thank you!

@dansup @matrix @xmpp What about Olvid instead of Signal? Any experience? (We are testing it at home these days.)

@dansup But what if “we” don’t want the people left on X?

@dansup @matrix @xmpp

digg ---> reddit

whops wrong decade!

@dansup @matrix @xmpp

I recently heard about the holochain (currently at the end of development) that will start to make possible to build your own local SELF-hosted, decentralized and encrypted chat room (also cloud...)

everything (redundancy mngt, encryption, storage split between servers, storage itself...) will be made by terminal of members of the chat room and no other server will be involved... (Thus it will request storage allocation from each member)

not only the data are decentralized, but then also the infrastructure with the control of it

That could be the next security & privacy revolution...

Exemple :
https://volla.online/en/volla-cloud/

@LightningToaster @techindepth27 @guardianproject Thanks I'll check where I installed it from and try fdroid.

@hyc Just a heads up, apparently the official F-droid app has some security issues and isn't recommended. I've used Neo-Store and @droidify Also as @LightningToaster mentioned, you'll need to add the @guardianproject repo in the settings to get Signal to show up

@MartinaNeumayer @dansup @kitkat Molly, a fork of Signal that, among other things, has already removed Signal's dependency on Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging by replacing it with UnifiedPush and their own MollySocket service, is also working to implement an open-source version of the server under the code name Flatline: github.com/mollyim/flatline-pl…

@dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features! ) that makes me urge two things:

One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.

Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).

As a user of Friendica for the last two years, I would have certainly agreed with you just a pair of weeks ago. Fortunately, the latest version of Friendica finally included the option to cache network channel data, at long last solving the problem of having to wait upwards of 30 seconds for the network tab to open. The "see more" option is an add-on for some reason, two in fact depending on which implementation you want to use, and either of them must be first enabled by the instance's administrator.

I also agree that there must be some way of making PeerTube natively compatible with subscriptions and "superchats", if we want YouTubers and livestreamers to be capable of using it as an actual replacement for their YT/Twitch channels. The only payment methods I've seen enabled for PeerTube as plug-ins are all cryptocurrency-based unfortunately.

@ben @dansup It's open source

@techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.

@zetabeta this is a P60 Pro on de-googled Android.