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I can’t believe we’re doing this again.

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  • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

    I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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    Bongmaster
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    @malwaretech@infosec.exchange "so called expert prompts a text gen bot to say exactly what they want them to say, and coerced it when it deviated." <_<

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    • BongmasterB Bongmaster

      @malwaretech@infosec.exchange "so called expert prompts a text gen bot to say exactly what they want them to say, and coerced it when it deviated." <_<

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      @bongmaster @malwaretech@infosec.exchange yeah tbf if you prompt an LLM "Isn't the answer yes?" it will do its best to make the answer into a yes

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      • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

        I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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        @malwaretech

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        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

          Otte Homan - remember GeordieO This user is from outside of this forum
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          Otte Homan - remember Geordie
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          @malwaretech the "edit.com" grey-courier-on-blue is a nice touch.

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          • burritosec :donor: :red_panda:B burritosec :donor: :red_panda:

            @malwaretech

            Juho MäntysaloI This user is from outside of this forum
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            @burritosec @malwaretech

            It doesn't really matter is the glorified text generator alive or not.

            It does matter how many nukes it launches if put into the position of HAL, and encountered with a situation where the matrix feels best to stop humans from shutting it down.

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            • Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:F Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:

              @malwaretech in the the old days the toasters were flying to save the screens. 😬

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              @fabrice @malwaretech Good old times

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              • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                Ashton WiersdorfW This user is from outside of this forum
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                @malwaretech I mean, there’s that one time when Berlin’s air traffic was managed with Emacs…

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                • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                  I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                  leftofcentreL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @malwaretech lmao 'say it out loud' 😮‍💨

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                  • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                    @burritosec @malwaretech

                    It doesn't really matter is the glorified text generator alive or not.

                    It does matter how many nukes it launches if put into the position of HAL, and encountered with a situation where the matrix feels best to stop humans from shutting it down.

                    leftofcentreL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @iju @burritosec @malwaretech 'feels' 🤡

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                    • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                      I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                      @malwaretech tech journalists learn one (1) thing about the tech they're reporting on that's not from a press release challenge (difficulty: impossible)

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                      • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                        I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                        @malwaretech we need new bits we can't be doing the "i shaked the 8ball that only says yes and you won't believe what it said" it's been done, it's not funny anymore, how about they do some actually funny shit like idk getting a tarot reading from a balatro player and going "holy shit" to a tower, death, cavendish triplet

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                        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                          @malwaretech They're going to hook it up to the nukes and we're all going to die not because there was a threat and it responded, but because that's a reasonable next plot point in a story about a robot connected to the nuclear bombs. The number of times someone writes a story about a robot that is connected to the nuclear bombs and everything turns out fine are quite limited. It's got little to work with. No training material.

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                          • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                            @burritosec @malwaretech

                            It doesn't really matter is the glorified text generator alive or not.

                            It does matter how many nukes it launches if put into the position of HAL, and encountered with a situation where the matrix feels best to stop humans from shutting it down.

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                            @iju that's not how LLMs work

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                            • Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:F Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:

                              @malwaretech in the the old days the toasters were flying to save the screens. 😬

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                              @malwaretech @fabrice

                              I see what you did there!

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                              • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                                Ondřej SurýO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @malwaretech > It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                                Coming to the airport near you this fall!

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                                • DrewC Drew

                                  @iju that's not how LLMs work

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                                  @crmsnbleyd

                                  Don't know much about LLM's, but I do know that they output text, and if that output is connected something else (be it toaster or a nuke), then surely it can be triggered.

                                  If I'm mistaken, you are welcome to correct me.

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                                  • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                    I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                                    @malwaretech /Talkie Toaster starts buffing up his CV

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                                    • leftofcentreL leftofcentre

                                      @iju @burritosec @malwaretech 'feels' 🤡

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                                      @leftofcentre @burritosec @malwaretech

                                      A placeholder word for whatever mechanism leads to LLM outputting anything.

                                      As you should have grasped from the "glorified text generator".

                                      Please don't be toxic.

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                                      • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                                        @crmsnbleyd

                                        Don't know much about LLM's, but I do know that they output text, and if that output is connected something else (be it toaster or a nuke), then surely it can be triggered.

                                        If I'm mistaken, you are welcome to correct me.

                                        DrewC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @iju it doesn't have any feelings about being shut down

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                                        • DrewC Drew

                                          @iju it doesn't have any feelings about being shut down

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                                          @crmsnbleyd

                                          https://mastodon.social/@iju/116005315090051735

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