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I can’t believe we’re doing this again.

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  • Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:F Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:

    @malwaretech in the the old days the toasters were flying to save the screens. 😬

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    @fabrice @malwaretech Good old times

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    • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

      I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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      @malwaretech I mean, there’s that one time when Berlin’s air traffic was managed with Emacs…

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      • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

        I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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        @malwaretech lmao 'say it out loud' 😮‍💨

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        • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

          @burritosec @malwaretech

          It doesn't really matter is the glorified text generator alive or not.

          It does matter how many nukes it launches if put into the position of HAL, and encountered with a situation where the matrix feels best to stop humans from shutting it down.

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          @iju @burritosec @malwaretech 'feels' 🤡

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          • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

            I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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            @malwaretech tech journalists learn one (1) thing about the tech they're reporting on that's not from a press release challenge (difficulty: impossible)

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            • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

              I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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              @malwaretech we need new bits we can't be doing the "i shaked the 8ball that only says yes and you won't believe what it said" it's been done, it's not funny anymore, how about they do some actually funny shit like idk getting a tarot reading from a balatro player and going "holy shit" to a tower, death, cavendish triplet

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              • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                @malwaretech They're going to hook it up to the nukes and we're all going to die not because there was a threat and it responded, but because that's a reasonable next plot point in a story about a robot connected to the nuclear bombs. The number of times someone writes a story about a robot that is connected to the nuclear bombs and everything turns out fine are quite limited. It's got little to work with. No training material.

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                • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                  @burritosec @malwaretech

                  It doesn't really matter is the glorified text generator alive or not.

                  It does matter how many nukes it launches if put into the position of HAL, and encountered with a situation where the matrix feels best to stop humans from shutting it down.

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                  @iju that's not how LLMs work

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                  • Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:F Fabrice Roux :verified: :donor:

                    @malwaretech in the the old days the toasters were flying to save the screens. 😬

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                    @malwaretech @fabrice

                    I see what you did there!

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                    • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                      I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                      @malwaretech > It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

                      Coming to the airport near you this fall!

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                      • DrewC Drew

                        @iju that's not how LLMs work

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                        @crmsnbleyd

                        Don't know much about LLM's, but I do know that they output text, and if that output is connected something else (be it toaster or a nuke), then surely it can be triggered.

                        If I'm mistaken, you are welcome to correct me.

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                        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                          @malwaretech /Talkie Toaster starts buffing up his CV

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                          • leftofcentreL leftofcentre

                            @iju @burritosec @malwaretech 'feels' 🤡

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                            @leftofcentre @burritosec @malwaretech

                            A placeholder word for whatever mechanism leads to LLM outputting anything.

                            As you should have grasped from the "glorified text generator".

                            Please don't be toxic.

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                            • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                              @crmsnbleyd

                              Don't know much about LLM's, but I do know that they output text, and if that output is connected something else (be it toaster or a nuke), then surely it can be triggered.

                              If I'm mistaken, you are welcome to correct me.

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                              @iju it doesn't have any feelings about being shut down

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                              • DrewC Drew

                                @iju it doesn't have any feelings about being shut down

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                                @crmsnbleyd

                                https://mastodon.social/@iju/116005315090051735

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                                • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                  I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                                  @malwaretech

                                  Say hi to HAL 6000 for me will ya?

                                  😬

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                                  • Juho MäntysaloI Juho Mäntysalo

                                    @crmsnbleyd

                                    https://mastodon.social/@iju/116005315090051735

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                                    @iju how do you suppose an LLM interfaces with "being shut down"? Why would it try to *not* be shut down

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                                    • DrewC Drew

                                      @iju how do you suppose an LLM interfaces with "being shut down"? Why would it try to *not* be shut down

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                                      @crmsnbleyd @iju The mighty off switch can not be defeated
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                                      • DrewC Drew

                                        @iju how do you suppose an LLM interfaces with "being shut down"? Why would it try to *not* be shut down

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                                        @crmsnbleyd

                                        Do you remember HAL?

                                        Also I'm getting the feeling that you're not conversing in good faith: first you refuse to tell what you saw as the problem in the message (unhelpful), and when I spent time trying to guess what you might have meant, you're criticizing me for not only writing perfect English, but not using it like I'm you.

                                        And then you start asking questions that I feel I've already answered.

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                                        • Marcus Hutchins :verified:M Marcus Hutchins :verified:

                                          I can’t believe we’re doing this again. It’s just a bot that generates the text you ask it for. If you put it in charge of critical decisions, it will kill people. Not because it’s secretly evil, but because it’s a word generator. It’s like putting your toaster in charge of air traffic control.

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                                          @malwaretech@infosec.exchange journalists need clicks

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