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  • da_667D da_667

    @GossiTheDog what's funny to me, is that there were influencers on linkedin a few days ago claiming claudecode could find vulnerabilities in code faster than humans, and they're like "look at all these openssl vulns it found!" now I'm like. "well no shit its finding vulnerabilities, when its the one introducing them."

    da_667D This user is from outside of this forum
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    da_667
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    @GossiTheDog ladies and gentlemen, it's this stupid shit (tm) that we are paying up the ass for new SSDs and RAM for.

    BrianD Ray—Golden Retriever Whisperer—🔝InsightsZ 2 Replies Last reply
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    • h0h0kamH h0h0kam

      @GossiTheDog sure, but it did that so much faster than a human could!

      AndrocatA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @hohokam @GossiTheDog

      The LLM can fuck up your project much faster than human developers ever could.

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      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

        Harry SintonenH This user is from outside of this forum
        Harry SintonenH This user is from outside of this forum
        Harry Sintonen
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        It's almost as if the language models are actually not intelligent at all.

        Who would have thought!?

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        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

          cR0wC This user is from outside of this forum
          cR0wC This user is from outside of this forum
          cR0w
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          #15

          @GossiTheDog If only a significant number of security practitioners could have seen it coming and warned people.

          FennixF Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A Klaus FrankA 3 Replies Last reply
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          • da_667D da_667

            @GossiTheDog what's funny to me, is that there were influencers on linkedin a few days ago claiming claudecode could find vulnerabilities in code faster than humans, and they're like "look at all these openssl vulns it found!" now I'm like. "well no shit its finding vulnerabilities, when its the one introducing them."

            Der Brüsseler 🇪🇺D This user is from outside of this forum
            Der Brüsseler 🇪🇺D This user is from outside of this forum
            Der Brüsseler 🇪🇺
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            @da_667 @GossiTheDog maybe it introduced them in the first place. Now its finding its own code.

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            • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

              Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

              I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

              So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

              https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

              As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

              BastianB This user is from outside of this forum
              BastianB This user is from outside of this forum
              Bastian
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              @GossiTheDog

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              • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                Tero Hänninen0 This user is from outside of this forum
                Tero Hänninen0 This user is from outside of this forum
                Tero Hänninen
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                #18

                @GossiTheDog I like the part where people are using Claude to write CLAUDE.md to explain Claude about directory traversal.

                Nothing in this supply chain could ever go wrong.

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                • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                  Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                  I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                  So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                  https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                  As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                  Sebastian BergmannS This user is from outside of this forum
                  Sebastian BergmannS This user is from outside of this forum
                  Sebastian Bergmann
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                  #19

                  @GossiTheDog It is interesting that these changes are attributed to a "user named Claude" and not to the "human using the agent named Claude". This is how diffusion of responsibility works, I guess.

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                  • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                    Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                    I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                    So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                    https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                    As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                    Thomas 🔭🕹️T This user is from outside of this forum
                    Thomas 🔭🕹️T This user is from outside of this forum
                    Thomas 🔭🕹️
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                    #20

                    @GossiTheDog you're just jealous because it will cure cancer and fix climate change

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                    • da_667D da_667

                      @GossiTheDog ladies and gentlemen, it's this stupid shit (tm) that we are paying up the ass for new SSDs and RAM for.

                      BrianD This user is from outside of this forum
                      BrianD This user is from outside of this forum
                      Brian
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                      #21

                      @da_667 @GossiTheDog There's not enough press on the downstream effects this stupid shit (tm) causes for any non-giant corp including those kids trying to build home labs to learn (like mine).

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                      • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                        Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                        I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                        So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                        https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                        As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                        Brian DavidE This user is from outside of this forum
                        Brian DavidE This user is from outside of this forum
                        Brian David
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                        @GossiTheDog was it Next.js?

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                        • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                          Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                          I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                          So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                          https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                          As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                          The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
                          The Penguin of EvilE This user is from outside of this forum
                          The Penguin of Evil
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                          @GossiTheDog So you are saying there is a business opportunity following claude around projects with bug bounties 😎

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                          • Kevin BeaumontG Kevin Beaumont

                            Today in InfoSec Job Security News:

                            I was looking into an obvious ../.. vulnerability introduced into a major web framework today, and it was committed by username Claude on GitHub. Vibe coded, basically.

                            So I started looking through Claude commits on GitHub, there’s over 2m of them and it’s about 5% of all open source code this month.

                            https://github.com/search?q=author%3Aclaude&type=commits&s=author-date&o=desc

                            As I looked through the code I saw the same class of vulns being introduced over, and over, again - several a minute.

                            Richard HughesH This user is from outside of this forum
                            Richard HughesH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @GossiTheDog I guess the AI security scanners will clean this up with their automated scan and CVE requests.</joke>

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                            • da_667D da_667

                              @GossiTheDog what's funny to me, is that there were influencers on linkedin a few days ago claiming claudecode could find vulnerabilities in code faster than humans, and they're like "look at all these openssl vulns it found!" now I'm like. "well no shit its finding vulnerabilities, when its the one introducing them."

                              B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B This user is from outside of this forum
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                              B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦
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                              @da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

                              Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

                              That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

                              @GossiTheDog

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                              • cR0wC cR0w

                                @GossiTheDog If only a significant number of security practitioners could have seen it coming and warned people.

                                FennixF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Fennix
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                                @cR0w @GossiTheDog

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                                • BrianD Brian

                                  @da_667 @GossiTheDog I wish that juice actually existed...

                                  draeathD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  draeath
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                                  @Drat @da_667 @GossiTheDog drink enough ethanol and you'll accomplish it!

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                                  • Thomas 🔭🕹️T Thomas 🔭🕹️

                                    @GossiTheDog you're just jealous because it will cure cancer and fix climate change

                                    FennixF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Fennix
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                                    @thomasfuchs @GossiTheDog

                                    I mean, if climate change becomes fixed eventually there won't be any more cancer, so they aren't completely wrong.

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                                    • B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦B B'ad Samurai 🐐🇺🇦

                                      @da_667 I demoed that very thing recently. Prompted up a form page and visually I could see a handful of basic JavaScript issues.

                                      Ask Claude to review the code it generated for vulns using OWASP Top 10. And it finds them.

                                      That’s just bonkers. Sure, a lazy initial prompt so it’s all my fault, really.

                                      @GossiTheDog

                                      draeathD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      draeathD This user is from outside of this forum
                                      draeath
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                                      #29

                                      @badsamurai @da_667 @GossiTheDog I've seen setups that run tests and such all in a closed loop, I suppose if one really wanted to "use" this shit, they could implement that sort of thing too.

                                      It'll cause a shedload more token use (and electrical waste) but might mitigate some of the idiocy.

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                                      • cR0wC cR0w

                                        @GossiTheDog If only a significant number of security practitioners could have seen it coming and warned people.

                                        Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏A This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Alan Langford 🇨🇦🧤🧊摏
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                                        @cR0w @GossiTheDog Where "a sufficient number" is defined as 125% of all existing and future security practitioners, certified or not.

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                                        • Aleksandr KoltsoffN Aleksandr Koltsoff

                                          @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog The purpose of a system is what it does. IMO these are not accidents.

                                          draeathD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @nihkeys @DJGummikuh @GossiTheDog I don't think that phrase allows for incompetency in design. The purpose is what was intended, not what actually results. There is a distinction.

                                          ManniC AzuaronA 2 Replies Last reply
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