When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
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@randahl I agree with you a 100%.
And I do not understand. There has to be a money trail we cannot see - to every inexplicability, money is always the answer. No exceptions. I cannot see it in this war.
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@randahl Agreed, but it does not stop private support. In the last 3 years I donated 1000s in equipment, winter supplies and cash. Just find your local Ukraine charity or donate via many mechanisms online.
@CressSalad I donated too.
But I cannot donate 1 million soldiers and the entire western air force. For that we need a war plan.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl No more shameful than we Americans have responded. You are learning and adapting. I'm sorry we Americans are just making it worse.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl don’t forget you have had the USA going hot and cold,dragging its feet, limiting the capabilities of it technology, switching off critical technology and refusing to go all out. The USA doesn’t want Ukraine to win or more accurately doesn’t want Russia to lose.
Europe and the rest of the world has learnt, You can never trust a Seppo. -
When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
What's even more disgraceful is how Ukraine is being used to test the next generation of weapons for WW3.
They aren't guinea pigs in a lab.
1. Trump's billionaires profiting from a disunited EU
https://www.desmog.com/2025/03/14/heritage-foundation-project-2025-allies-mcc-ordo-iuris-discuss-dismantling-the-eu-european-union/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
https://wesodonnell.medium.com/nato-nations-line-up-to-buy-ukrainian-weapon-systems-d47389e24c87
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war
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What's even more disgraceful is how Ukraine is being used to test the next generation of weapons for WW3.
They aren't guinea pigs in a lab.
1. Trump's billionaires profiting from a disunited EU
https://www.desmog.com/2025/03/14/heritage-foundation-project-2025-allies-mcc-ordo-iuris-discuss-dismantling-the-eu-european-union/https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/31/magazine/ukraine-ai-drones-war-russia.html
https://wesodonnell.medium.com/nato-nations-line-up-to-buy-ukrainian-weapon-systems-d47389e24c87
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink_in_the_Russo-Ukrainian_war
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Yes, the fossil fuel industry is preparing for world war to keep its hegemony.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/2. Hybrid Warfare, cyber wars
https://techcrunch.com/2026/01/30/russian-hackers-breached-polish-power-grid-thanks-to-bad-security-report-says/3. Disinformation & firehosing using social media
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/04/technology/google-meta-openai-military-war.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firehose_of_falsehood4. A survivable nuclear war?
https://archive.ph/weirB
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/12/09/opinion/editorials/us-china-military-ai-tech.html
https://quincyinst.org/research/profits-of-war-top-beneficiaries-of-pentagon-spending-2020-2024/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/2026/01/german-militarism-european-security/684951/
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl The problem is that other nations' leaders either believed Putin's threats about escalation "if NATO joined", and/or they feared internal political detriment if their nation's soldiers were killed.
We don't have leaders, we have politicians.
Although it probably would have only taken one other nation to commit troops for all others to quickly go "oh, yes, we will too" - but since no one did take that step.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl Ucrania y luego ha llegado Mr. Trump y la geopolítica mundial ha cambiado radilcamente. La guerra de Putin contra Ucrania pasó a ser una guerra de tanques y se ha convertido en una guerra de drones y puso sobre la mesa las debilidades de Europa más allá de su músculo económico.
La UE necesita nuevos actores políticos, el pueblo ruso debe hacérselo mirar y los aliados de Rusia como Irán, China e India no han contribuído mucho.
Han pasado muchas cosas desde el comienzo de la guerra ... -
When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
30 sanction packages should have been one, a comprehensive one. And Russian shadow fleet ships can still pass by Denmark into the North Sea.
What a shame!
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl If I look at this in the only area I have any expertise, it’s clear that Europe’s war machine doesn’t run without US tech.
And currently, the US is significantly puppeteered by rus interests in this thing, it seems to me?
Not a good technical base to stand on, confronting the rus.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl Alright. Let's just attack Russia and hope we don't see 5.000 nukes falling from the sky. That sounds like an amazing idea.
Actually, why don't we just end ourselves and spare the Russians the trouble.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl The World is currently playing Putin's War. On his terms.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl you know how we could have already ended this war? Not giving the 2014 coup d'etat, sponsored by the US and the EU. That would have created 0 wars. Now you want the European citizenship to support a war created by some criminals in our name by giving the power in Ukraine to their worst nationalistic fascists? No, I don't think so. Go fight yourself.
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl how can we? And why, esp. UK and USA, didn't we at the very beginning of the war, when Russia and Ukraine were leading the according talks pretty successfully themselves?
https://netzclash.wordpress.com/2025/10/07/brauchen-wir-eine-wehrpflicht/
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When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.
Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.
We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.
I find that profoundly shameful.
@randahl Couldn't agree more! Let the people of Ukraine suffer so we can do business as usual :-((and EU leaders still dare to call that solidarity.)
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@randahl you know how we could have already ended this war? Not giving the 2014 coup d'etat, sponsored by the US and the EU. That would have created 0 wars. Now you want the European citizenship to support a war created by some criminals in our name by giving the power in Ukraine to their worst nationalistic fascists? No, I don't think so. Go fight yourself.
so the ukrainian people rose up in 2014 of their own accord
it was not mind control from the CIA that made ukrainians rise up
and now today they fight with their lives to remain free of russia. again, of their own accord
do you imagine they fight now because of CIA mind control?
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do you have any respect for the ukrainian people at all?
no you don't
you're a liar pushing weak kremlin disinfo or you're an idiot with a tiny head full of kremlin disinfo
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so the ukrainian people rose up in 2014 of their own accord
it was not mind control from the CIA that made ukrainians rise up
and now today they fight with their lives to remain free of russia. again, of their own accord
do you imagine they fight now because of CIA mind control?
🤪
do you have any respect for the ukrainian people at all?
no you don't
you're a liar pushing weak kremlin disinfo or you're an idiot with a tiny head full of kremlin disinfo
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@randahl Alright. Let's just attack Russia and hope we don't see 5.000 nukes falling from the sky. That sounds like an amazing idea.
Actually, why don't we just end ourselves and spare the Russians the trouble.
if russia nukes europe moscow ceases to exist in an equivalent nuclear hellfire. so russia won't nuke europe
and europeans aren't just going to end themselves as you wish, vatnik
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in the arab spring as well the people rose up on their own
you're the one living in a teletubbies world where they push magic buttons at CIA hq and then magically thousands, millions of people suddenly desire to be free of sick feeble autocratic corrupt govts
it's not possible that the people living in those countries, all on their very own, don't like their govts? that's a crazy idea to you?
why are you so dumb?
why do you believe stupid weak kremlin lies?
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@benroyce @randahl if you are able to remember what happened in that year 2014, although I seriously doubt your intellectual capacity, there was a parallel similar movement both in Ukraine and in Egypt, where 'the people rose up' (xD). There was a coup d'etat in both countries, in Ukraine against a pro-Russian guy, after whom Ukrainian nationalistic took power, began the war in the Donbass against pro-Russian regions and perpetrated the Odessa massacre; while in Egypt there was elections which gave place to the Muslim Brothers rule. The first ones were supported by the Western powers, while the second ones weren't and suffered another coup d'etat by their military who have been ruling ever since.
Then Egypt dissapeared from the news outlets while Ukraine was offered to host a NATO base, finally triggering Russia's invasion.
