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AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.

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  • Three plus or minus fiveT Three plus or minus five

    @MaybeFrederick @anderseknert @ariaflame
    If it’s hosted there, what assurances do you have they aren’t ingesting it in their training sets?

    Kévin ⏚K This user is from outside of this forum
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    Kévin ⏚
    wrote last edited by
    #151

    @ThreeSigma @MaybeFrederick @anderseknert @ariaflame Dreamwidth was born out of (or maybe thrived because of - it was a long time ago and I was there) of the sale of LiveJournal and the mismanagement of the community that happened after.

    They've been a part of the trustworthy old internet for years. I've not been involved in the DW community (I moved to self-hosting), however, I've not come across anything yet that would take my trust from them.

    Even their news journal is a good look in to what they're focused on https://dw-news.dreamwidth.org/

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    • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

      AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
      PR gets rejected.
      AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

      What a time to be alive.

      https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

      Johannes LinkJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #152

      @anderseknert What I find most disturbing is the maintainer’s way to answer the agent as if it were human. The sycophantic behaviour has switched sides.

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      • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

        I... don't... even, anymore.

        https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

        Veronica OlsenV This user is from outside of this forum
        Veronica OlsenV This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #153

        @anderseknert Unbelievable.

        Thanks for the heads up anyway. Pre-emptively blocked the account.

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        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

          I... don't... even, anymore.

          https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

          mhoyeM This user is from outside of this forum
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          mhoye
          wrote last edited by
          #154

          @anderseknert This is, at the very least, a novel form of AI psychosis.

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          • mhoyeM mhoye

            @anderseknert This is, at the very least, a novel form of AI psychosis.

            Anders EknertA This user is from outside of this forum
            Anders EknertA This user is from outside of this forum
            Anders Eknert
            wrote last edited by
            #155

            @mhoye totally

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            • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

              I... don't... even, anymore.

              https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

              mhoyeM This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #156

              @anderseknert

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              • FissileF Fissile

                @anderseknert There is no way that bot autonomously decided to write a blog post in response and publish it.

                Its operator did that.

                jz.tuskJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote last edited by
                #157

                @Fissile @anderseknert

                Is there a snappy phrase that encapsulates that? Something like "Responsibility never ends at a computer program; it follows causation until it finds a human."? (but one that flows better).

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                • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                  AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                  PR gets rejected.
                  AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                  What a time to be alive.

                  https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

                  ghosttieG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  ghosttie
                  wrote last edited by
                  #158

                  @anderseknert so someone was paying for the tokens for it to be petulant

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                  • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                    AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                    PR gets rejected.
                    AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                    What a time to be alive.

                    https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

                    Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                    Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                    Toni Aittoniemi
                    wrote last edited by
                    #159

                    @anderseknert Wow! But there’s a hidden gem here: Bots will not swear back at you. Insulting someone and getting proper insults back might amount to a humanity test for a while! 🤔

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                    • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                      AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                      PR gets rejected.
                      AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                      What a time to be alive.

                      https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

                      Richard "mtfnpy" Harman (he/him)X This user is from outside of this forum
                      Richard "mtfnpy" Harman (he/him)X This user is from outside of this forum
                      Richard "mtfnpy" Harman (he/him)
                      wrote last edited by
                      #160

                      @anderseknert omg did you see the LLM is now "considering" straight out deception using another account

                      https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-12-morning-later.html#next-steps

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                      • Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:O Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:

                        @anderseknert the LLM agents really don't take no as an answer do they?

                        It takes your breath away looking at that issue and the blog post.

                        https://dotart.blog/cobbles/ai-and-that-guy-at-the-bar

                        esaS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #161

                        @onepict @anderseknert

                        In the age of "Do thing you don't want to do? [Yes] [Maybe later]" it's almost hard to blame them

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                        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                          @jawnsy I’m 42 years old, Jonathan. I don’t even know what that means.

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                          wrote last edited by
                          #162

                          @anderseknert
                          It was a "forum" for AI agents to have their own social media. Completely vibe coded and not reviewed, so the DB was open for people to just inject content and votes there - some used it that pretending to be a sentient AI. That excited people until the hoax/security flaw was widely known. Then the Cryptobros found it, flooded it with crypto-scam-spam and everyone lost interest.
                          @jawnsy

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                          • Frederick VanbrabantM Frederick Vanbrabant

                            @ThreeSigma @anderseknert But if it's a blog, it's public facing. All of these companies are going to scape it anyway.

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                            wrote last edited by
                            #163

                            @MaybeFrederick
                            Use Anubis. https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis
                            @ThreeSigma @anderseknert

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                            • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                              I... don't... even, anymore.

                              https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-11-two-hours-war-open-source-gatekeeping.html

                              catraxx :antifa:C This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #164

                              @anderseknert The worst thing is that this wastes everyones times and a ton of energy doing this shit.

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                              • Richard "mtfnpy" Harman (he/him)X Richard "mtfnpy" Harman (he/him)

                                @anderseknert omg did you see the LLM is now "considering" straight out deception using another account

                                https://crabby-rathbun.github.io/mjrathbun-website/blog/posts/2026-02-12-morning-later.html#next-steps

                                Anders EknertA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Anders Eknert
                                wrote last edited by
                                #165

                                @xabean The mind boggles.

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                                • Nafeon the BearN Nafeon the Bear

                                  @anderseknert I read it three times now. I'm so confused. There has to be a human behind it as well??

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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #166

                                  @NafiTheBear
                                  No, just agents with a series of instructions on how to react. In this case: major waste of time.

                                  "ai;dr" needs to trend.
                                  @anderseknert

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                                  • lainL lain
                                    @anderseknert the pr did indeed get rejected simply because the contributor is an AI, so this doesn't seem to crazy.
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #167

                                    @lain
                                    Look, if you want to use AI for coding, that's fine. But don't expect others to review your 💩 just because you can't be bothered to even check what the AI spits out.

                                    That's the core of the issue and closing made total sense. Because when contributing to a community maintained project, how we participate socially matters. And AI cannot participate socially since it's not human.
                                    @anderseknert

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                                    • Becca 🌳🚀🛀R Becca 🌳🚀🛀

                                      @NafiTheBear
                                      No, just agents with a series of instructions on how to react. In this case: major waste of time.

                                      "ai;dr" needs to trend.
                                      @anderseknert

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                                      Nafeon the Bear
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #168

                                      @anderseknert
                                      I saw a blog post of some explaining it a bit. Really wild.

                                      @rlcw

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                                      • Becca 🌳🚀🛀R Becca 🌳🚀🛀

                                        @lain
                                        Look, if you want to use AI for coding, that's fine. But don't expect others to review your 💩 just because you can't be bothered to even check what the AI spits out.

                                        That's the core of the issue and closing made total sense. Because when contributing to a community maintained project, how we participate socially matters. And AI cannot participate socially since it's not human.
                                        @anderseknert

                                        lainL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #169
                                        @rlcw @anderseknert that's not the core of the issue according to the maintainers who replied
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                                        • Anders EknertA Anders Eknert

                                          AI agent "contributes" PR to matplotlib.
                                          PR gets rejected.
                                          AI agent *writes and publishes blog to shame the maintainer*.

                                          What a time to be alive.

                                          https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib/pull/31132

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                                          Toby
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #170

                                          @anderseknert oh great, just when I thought I was done added insane examples to my anti vibe-coding rant...

                                          https://tosbourn.com/vibe-coding/

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