Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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The first type is the one that tends to get celebrated, awarded and rewarded, the second type are necessary for everyone to stay healthy and everything to keep ticking over, to create an environment in which the first type that impresses everyone can happen. At home we call these housework or care work, in a professional context we call them routine maintenance or "glue"
Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.
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Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.
If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
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Because if there isn't I am developing a very strong suspicion that NextCloud developers aren't the ones who do the housework in their households
@afewbugs this is such a delightful read/bash/flame on them...
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs Don't know, but if not, you could try Todoist. That certainly allows recurring tasks, with quite a lot of flexibility over how they recur.
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@afewbugs Don't know, but if not, you could try Todoist. That certainly allows recurring tasks, with quite a lot of flexibility over how they recur.
@statsguy I currently use Todoist, I'm exploring European alternatives for a lot of things at the moment and as I'm already using Nextcloud for file management I was hoping I could use them but no such luck
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Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.
@afewbugs I hit this when trying to find a todo app for the bakery. They’re all geared towards shipping, not maintaining. There seems to be no awareness that the same job will need to be done over and over again.
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@afewbugs I hit this when trying to find a todo app for the bakery. They’re all geared towards shipping, not maintaining. There seems to be no awareness that the same job will need to be done over and over again.
@afewbugs Probably no surprise that the biggest jobs in a bakery are cleaning.
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@statsguy I currently use Todoist, I'm exploring European alternatives for a lot of things at the moment and as I'm already using Nextcloud for file management I was hoping I could use them but no such luck
@afewbugs Ah yes, I suppose Todoist is American. I'm trying to wean myself off US tech too, but ditching Todoist is quite a way down my to-do list (ironically enough). My current project is trying to replace Google Maps Timelines, and funnily enough my current solution, which I think I've pretty much got working, also uses Nextcloud.
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@afewbugs Ah yes, I suppose Todoist is American. I'm trying to wean myself off US tech too, but ditching Todoist is quite a way down my to-do list (ironically enough). My current project is trying to replace Google Maps Timelines, and funnily enough my current solution, which I think I've pretty much got working, also uses Nextcloud.
@statsguy yes they're definitely bottom of the list because honestly i'm so dependent on them to do absolutely anything!
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@afewbugs Ah yes, I suppose Todoist is American. I'm trying to wean myself off US tech too, but ditching Todoist is quite a way down my to-do list (ironically enough). My current project is trying to replace Google Maps Timelines, and funnily enough my current solution, which I think I've pretty much got working, also uses Nextcloud.
@afewbugs But if Nextcloud tasks doesn't have a recurrence feature, I guess I won't be using that as a Todoist replacement anytime soon. I have absolutely loads of recurring tasks set up. Couldn't possibly use a to-do list system that didn't have it.
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The first type is the one that tends to get celebrated, awarded and rewarded, the second type are necessary for everyone to stay healthy and everything to keep ticking over, to create an environment in which the first type that impresses everyone can happen. At home we call these housework or care work, in a professional context we call them routine maintenance or "glue"
@afewbugs I’m not a nextcloud dev, but Tim Chase ( @gumnos ) wrote a long article on how he uses remind to track “glue.” https://blog.thechases.com/posts/remind/
Since I’m (slowly) moving away from Apple products, and we currently use Apple’s calendar to track household glue (and other appointments), I’ve been looking at tools for moving events from remind to an iCal format calendar using rem2ics so my sweetie can keep using the calendar app on her phone, even if I switch the underlying household calendar.
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@afewbugs I’m not a nextcloud dev, but Tim Chase ( @gumnos ) wrote a long article on how he uses remind to track “glue.” https://blog.thechases.com/posts/remind/
Since I’m (slowly) moving away from Apple products, and we currently use Apple’s calendar to track household glue (and other appointments), I’ve been looking at tools for moving events from remind to an iCal format calendar using rem2ics so my sweetie can keep using the calendar app on her phone, even if I switch the underlying household calendar.
@afewbugs @gumnos I’m not sure that this will be our long-term solution, but it sounds close enough to right that I’m spending some time looking at it, since it will mesh nicely with the work I did on my shop calendar to remind me of the “big one-off tasks” in the shop, but which also displays the “glue” from our calendar, so I don’t lose track of when I’m supposed to haul the trash to the street for pickup. https://write.as/davepolaschek/a-calendar-for-the-shop
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If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
@afewbugs can we at least say women are just better? In general
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@afewbugs @gumnos I’m not sure that this will be our long-term solution, but it sounds close enough to right that I’m spending some time looking at it, since it will mesh nicely with the work I did on my shop calendar to remind me of the “big one-off tasks” in the shop, but which also displays the “glue” from our calendar, so I don’t lose track of when I’m supposed to haul the trash to the street for pickup. https://write.as/davepolaschek/a-calendar-for-the-shop
@afewbugs @gumnos I’m planning to publish the source for the shop calendar, but first I need to get a web-server up and running, and I’m hoping to have iocaine running on it to keep AI scrapers at bay, as a preliminary experiment used a ton of bandwidth in a day of putting some (Markov-chain-babbly) source-code on a publicly accessible server. https://iocaine.madhouse-project.org/
So, a fairly typical yak-shaving expedition has ensued, because I would still like to have nice things.
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@afewbugs can we at least say women are just better? In general
@quixoticgeek I mean from my perspective they are
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
@afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)
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@afewbugs I’m not a nextcloud dev, but Tim Chase ( @gumnos ) wrote a long article on how he uses remind to track “glue.” https://blog.thechases.com/posts/remind/
Since I’m (slowly) moving away from Apple products, and we currently use Apple’s calendar to track household glue (and other appointments), I’ve been looking at tools for moving events from remind to an iCal format calendar using rem2ics so my sweetie can keep using the calendar app on her phone, even if I switch the underlying household calendar.
@davepolaschek @gumnos thanks, i've bookmarked that
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@afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
Ah, replied to a post which was removed before I could press reply. Anyway, here's the comment:
I think, to some degree and in a work environment, it's also because maintenance tasks and day to day operations stuff is not typically valued in an organization. Some people - and they're often men - don't do work which won't get them recognition from higher-ups.
I say this as someone who prefers to do maintenance work and operations stuff, and who likes to clean up and make sure my area of responsibility is in tip top shape even where people don't typically look.
But most people don't think about the cleanup and maintenance phase of an IT project, so they leave their mess everywhere. Which is frankly somewhere between annoying and infuriating.
