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Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee.

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  • KristieK Kristie

    @barrygoldman1 I hope the world gives me a reason to disagree.

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    Barry Goldman
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    @kristiedegaris i think it is healthier for us to understand ourselves rather than hide our heads under the sand! then we could at least try to heal from a place of reality.

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    • KristieK Kristie

      Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

      The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

      Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

      Nicole ParsonsN This user is from outside of this forum
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      @kristiedegaris

      The last rise of fascism had its funding & inspiration from The Moneyed of the UK & USA.

      Both empires never got over their hankering for colonialism, slavery & bigotry.

      Fascism had the same kind of financial backers then as now.

      1. Hitler got funding from Henry Ford & IG Farben

      https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/07/31/hate-speech/

      https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/ford-and-fuhrer/

      https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/henry-ford-antisemitism-jacob-schiff-money-kings/

      2. The Duke of Windsor recommended bombing his own former London subjects & sold information on defenses ...

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      • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

        @kristiedegaris

        The last rise of fascism had its funding & inspiration from The Moneyed of the UK & USA.

        Both empires never got over their hankering for colonialism, slavery & bigotry.

        Fascism had the same kind of financial backers then as now.

        1. Hitler got funding from Henry Ford & IG Farben

        https://washingtonmonthly.com/2025/07/31/hate-speech/

        https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/ford-and-fuhrer/

        https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/henry-ford-antisemitism-jacob-schiff-money-kings/

        2. The Duke of Windsor recommended bombing his own former London subjects & sold information on defenses ...

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        Nicole ParsonsN This user is from outside of this forum
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        ... Franco, Vichy, Salazar, and the Nazis.

        https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-windsor-file

        https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/the-passionate-eye/historians-believe-the-duke-of-windsor-actively-collaborated-with-the-nazis-during-the-second-world-war-1.6635225

        https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2026/01/david-frum-show-fiona-hill-putin/685690/

        https://www.rferl.org/a/trump-board-of-peace-putin-un/33656659.html

        3. Standard Oil colluded with the Nazis

        https://www.jpost.com/blogs/the-jewish-problem---from-anti-judaism-to-anti-semitism/arming-the-enemy-us-industry-hitler-and-the-holocaust-366097

        https://royaldutchshellplc.com/2025/10/14/shells-dark-fuel-the-nazi-past-the-oil-giant-couldnt-bury/

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/dark-money-review-nazi-oil-the-koch-brothers-and-a-rightwing-revolution

        https://massivesci.com/articles/fossil-fuel-industry-oil-gas-white-supremacy/

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

        4. Six newspaper moguls promoted the Axis. So did radio.
        https://aspectsofhistory.com/book_reviews/the-newspaper-axis-by-kathryn-a-olmsted/

        https://thebostonsun.com/2022/11/17/the-nazis-of-copley-square-a-talk-by-charles-gallagher/

        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/opinion/larry-ellison-paramount-cbs-tiktok.html

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        • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

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          ... Franco, Vichy, Salazar, and the Nazis.

          https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-windsor-file

          https://www.cbc.ca/documentaries/the-passionate-eye/historians-believe-the-duke-of-windsor-actively-collaborated-with-the-nazis-during-the-second-world-war-1.6635225

          https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/2026/01/david-frum-show-fiona-hill-putin/685690/

          https://www.rferl.org/a/trump-board-of-peace-putin-un/33656659.html

          3. Standard Oil colluded with the Nazis

          https://www.jpost.com/blogs/the-jewish-problem---from-anti-judaism-to-anti-semitism/arming-the-enemy-us-industry-hitler-and-the-holocaust-366097

          https://royaldutchshellplc.com/2025/10/14/shells-dark-fuel-the-nazi-past-the-oil-giant-couldnt-bury/

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/17/dark-money-review-nazi-oil-the-koch-brothers-and-a-rightwing-revolution

          https://massivesci.com/articles/fossil-fuel-industry-oil-gas-white-supremacy/

          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

          4. Six newspaper moguls promoted the Axis. So did radio.
          https://aspectsofhistory.com/book_reviews/the-newspaper-axis-by-kathryn-a-olmsted/

          https://thebostonsun.com/2022/11/17/the-nazis-of-copley-square-a-talk-by-charles-gallagher/

          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/18/opinion/larry-ellison-paramount-cbs-tiktok.html

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          5. Every international institution had embedded Nazi quislings & collaborators
          https://www.borowitzreport.com/p/introducing-tbrs-traitor-of-the-week

          https://variety.com/2025/film/global/goteborg-quisling-erik-poppe-toronto-anders-danielsen-lie-1236283530/

          https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-mcconnell-blocks-election-security-bill-hours-after-muellers/

          https://www.npr.org/2019/09/20/762499808/senate-breaks-logjam-on-election-security-cash-but-activists-say-more-is-needed

          https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/inside-the-koch-backed-effort-to-block-the-largest-election-reform-bill-in-half-a-century

          6. Switzerland, Sweden, & Bank of England laundered looted gold.

          https://www.bbc.com/news/business-23513654

          https://www.rferl.org/a/1083119.html

          https://www.economist.com/europe/1998/07/02/swiss-banks-and-nazi-gold

          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/23/us/politics/sec-crypto-winklevoss.html

          https://gizmodo.com/the-winklevoss-twins-are-eyeing-2-22-billion-crypto-ipo-2000652038

          https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/24/repatriate-the-gold-german-economists-advise-withdrawal-from-us-vaults

          https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/12/21/how-russian-money-helped-save-trumps-business/

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/03/trump-media-es-family-trust-2022-loans

          https://www.cnbc.com/2026/01/23/pardon-binance-founder-cz-trump.html

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          • KristieK Kristie

            Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

            The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

            Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

            hanktank61H This user is from outside of this forum
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            hanktank61
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            @kristiedegaris Mainly as tourist wife and me travelled a lot all over the UK, for 44 years now. There is a lot of Bad, but also Good. After Maggie, things did not improve for commoners. But we saw local social networks getting stronger. Through church, clubs, places-to-meet and talk and stay warm. Finally see that happening in The Netherlands too . There is lot of noise. That is not where it is happening.
            It is just there where it is needed.
            "To be the grain of sand building the dyke ".

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            • KristieK Kristie

              Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

              The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

              Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

              AndyA This user is from outside of this forum
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              Andy
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              @kristiedegaris Very well said, I agree totally, and you have a new follower.

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              • KristieK Kristie

                Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

                Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

                CassandraVertC This user is from outside of this forum
                CassandraVertC This user is from outside of this forum
                CassandraVert
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                It's not that nothing stood in its way. It took decades, and a lot had to be changed to get here.
                There is a segment of the population that has always wanted this and is loving it now. We allowed our safeguards against these people to be taken down.

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                • KristieK Kristie

                  Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                  The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

                  Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

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                  @kristiedegaris

                  It can't be #neveragain until humans keep sociopaths out of politics, out of any positions of power. That's why greed is overtaking humanity's real progress.

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                  • KristieK Kristie

                    Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                    The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

                    Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

                    heuveltopH This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @kristiedegaris Never again requires education, and teaching, but was sounding to much as resistence against the new powers. We had needed to teach all people to be part of society and be an active member of governing our societies. But we were lazy and kept believing on strong leaders, and benovelent dictators. The USA was designed for a fascist takeover because convenience was to attractive.

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                    • KristieK Kristie

                      Since the Second World War, we've said 'never again' like we were casting a spell of guarantee. But 'never again' was a commitment, and we did not keep it.

                      The world has witnessed the rise of fascism in the United States, and the most disturbing part is that almost nothing stood in its way.

                      Feeling deeply worried. For my kids. For us all.

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                      xinit ☕ / 🗑‍🔥
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                      @kristiedegaris
                      It's been rising for a hundred years, but they let the disguise drop.

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                        @lexinova
                        Had Japan not attacked the USA, I wonder if the USA might have entered the war a year later, but on the other side.
                        @kristiedegaris

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