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Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive.

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  • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

    Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

    https://signal.org/download/

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    @cassidy or better use @delta or any other decentralized app that also is E2EE.

    Because signal run on AWS (Amazon), Azure (Microslop), And the one from google.

    So the Orange pedophile can call his billionaire friend and shut down Signal at a moment notice.

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    • HeliographH Heliograph

      @cassidy see https://matrix.org #matrix #messaging #decentralised #communication

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      @Heliograph @cassidy matrix is filled with security issue and privacy leak

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      • A Andrea

        @cassidy @Heliograph why? What do you see as difficult about using Element X?

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        @apex @cassidy @Heliograph the issue of matrix is all the design flaw that nullify the "privacy" or "security" like the group not encrypted for instance.

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        • craignicolC craignicol

          @MisuseCase @cassidy remember that certain countries (*cough* UK *cough*) don't permit Advanced Data Protection, so that's not an option for everyone, depending who you might be sending information to.

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          @craignicol @cassidy I know. For that and other reasons, Signal is more dependable. Although I do like that Apple couldn’t give my iCloud data to the feds even if it wanted to.

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          • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

            @cassidy or better use @delta or any other decentralized app that also is E2EE.

            Because signal run on AWS (Amazon), Azure (Microslop), And the one from google.

            So the Orange pedophile can call his billionaire friend and shut down Signal at a moment notice.

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            @lexinova @cassidy @delta
            And if you still want try Signal but your phone is too old, you can use Molly.
            Molly is available on Fdroid after you added the repository : https://molly.im

            I prefer XMPP. There is plenty of clients on desktop. On smartphone you can use Conversation or Cheogram, available on Fdroid.

            Fdroid? https://fdroid.org with many good FOSS app

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            • LautreG, souvent dans la LuneL LautreG, souvent dans la Lune

              @lexinova @cassidy @delta
              And if you still want try Signal but your phone is too old, you can use Molly.
              Molly is available on Fdroid after you added the repository : https://molly.im

              I prefer XMPP. There is plenty of clients on desktop. On smartphone you can use Conversation or Cheogram, available on Fdroid.

              Fdroid? https://fdroid.org with many good FOSS app

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              @lautreg @cassidy @delta yeah but in these time i would not recommend the usage of something that the US Nazi, can shutdown or seize and update silently.

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              • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                https://signal.org/download/

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                @cassidy There is a lot of dangerous advice here for the assumed target audience. I'd recommend reading https://soatok.blog/2024/07/31/what-does-it-mean-to-be-a-signal-competitor/ for those barging in with messenger recommendations.

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                • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                  @cassidy or better use @delta or any other decentralized app that also is E2EE.

                  Because signal run on AWS (Amazon), Azure (Microslop), And the one from google.

                  So the Orange pedophile can call his billionaire friend and shut down Signal at a moment notice.

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                  @lexinova @cassidy @delta The problem is that it's hard enough to get people to switch to something as niche as Signal already. Nevermind something even smaller.

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                  • ShiroBlooS ShiroBloo

                    @lexinova @cassidy @delta The problem is that it's hard enough to get people to switch to something as niche as Signal already. Nevermind something even smaller.

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                    @ShiroBloo @cassidy @delta don't really care about "it's difficult", i will not recommend something that i don't trust myself

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                    • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                      Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                      https://signal.org/download/

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                      @cassidy I use @mollyim as my Signal app of choice. I think Signal says to only use the official app, but I'm a rebel.

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                      • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                        @cassidy or better use @delta or any other decentralized app that also is E2EE.

                        Because signal run on AWS (Amazon), Azure (Microslop), And the one from google.

                        So the Orange pedophile can call his billionaire friend and shut down Signal at a moment notice.

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                        @lexinova @cassidy @delta +1 for #Deltachat

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                        • groxxG groxx

                          @robert @cassidy @motoridersd yep - the E2EE spec for RCS is new as of last year (despite the many years of vague claims about RCS E2EE support) and AFAICT *nothing* handles that spec yet: https://www.gsma.com/solutions-and-impact/technologies/networks/gsma_resources/gsma-rcs-universal-profile-3-0-specifications/

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                          @groxx @robert @cassidy @motoridersd Zut alors

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                          • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                            @apex @cassidy @Heliograph the issue of matrix is all the design flaw that nullify the "privacy" or "security" like the group not encrypted for instance.

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                            @lexinova @cassidy @Heliograph I've just checked and in Element X, the E2EE is enabled by default in rooms.

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                            • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                              @cassidy or better use @delta or any other decentralized app that also is E2EE.

                              Because signal run on AWS (Amazon), Azure (Microslop), And the one from google.

                              So the Orange pedophile can call his billionaire friend and shut down Signal at a moment notice.

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                              @lexinova @cassidy @delta another vote for http://get.delta.chat

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                              • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                                Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                                https://signal.org/download/

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                                @cassidy i too struggle to understand why people recommend Signal from Mountain View, CA in the context of European digital sovereignty. That won't help stimulate a European digital marketplace of excellent services under our own jurisdiction and tax code.

                                It seems to be an amazing app, so it's not an issue of whether you like it. It's still US software.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_View,_California

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                                • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                                  @ShiroBloo @cassidy @delta don't really care about "it's difficult", i will not recommend something that i don't trust myself

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                                  @lexinova @ShiroBloo @cassidy @delta It's just that I tried using Matrix, and this is not something I see being mass adopted, wheareas Signal could easily replace WhatsApp.

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                                  • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                                    Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                                    https://signal.org/download/

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                                    @cassidy I try to advocate for Signal (and donate!) but they really do treat their (non-Debian/Ubuntu) Linux user base like crap.

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                                    • ShiroBlooS ShiroBloo

                                      @lexinova @ShiroBloo @cassidy @delta It's just that I tried using Matrix, and this is not something I see being mass adopted, wheareas Signal could easily replace WhatsApp.

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                                      @ShiroBloo @cassidy @delta signal is a centralised crap talk all you want i will not recommend it and maintain it's ban on company devices

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                                      • Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:C Cassidy James :rr: :gg: :fh:

                                        Friendly reminder that Signal—while maybe not perfect—is a much better choice for communication than RCS, especially if you are communicating anything sensitive. Doubly true if you are on iOS or communicating with anyone who is, as Apple still does not even use end-to-end encryption like Google does on Android.

                                        https://signal.org/download/

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                                        @cassidy Better: Use #Threema. One of the safest messengers so far and run via Swiss servers.

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