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I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

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  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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    @danirabbit yeah, never understood people complain about others only doing things half way.

    Like every single bit helps. And people should also never blame themselves for not meeting set up standards like "I'll be vegan from now on". This isn't a competition you can "fail".

    Exploring vegan options is a process and some things you'll like and others you won't + there are also dietary restrictions

    Disclosure: I'm totally the kind of person who would go for a vegan patty + bacon burger thing 🙃

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    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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      #5

      @danirabbit mmmmm bacon.

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      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

        I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

        People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

        So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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        @danirabbit
        I love the message shared here!

        I've been doing something like that.. sort of? I haven't bought meat in a couple of weeks, but I still haven't completely abolished it (meal at work, meals with the family)

        Was I to completely abolish any and all meat, I think I'd end up "burnt out", and going back to the unhealthy meat consumption

        Completely abolishing meat is part of the future plan, but if I have to have a cheat day, then so be it, I think I am proud of myself for the change I've done, and I definitely think this idea is a good way to get people to also make the change

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        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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          @danirabbit Absolutely - and people also generally understand the higher-order impacts of making small positive changes - they can compound surprisingly well, especially if the folks around you see you making them & are encouraged to join in.

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          • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

            I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

            People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

            So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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            @danirabbit

            I don't know if it's Vegan but veggie bacon is petty tasty! I prefer it.

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            • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

              I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

              People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

              So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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              @danirabbit yes! it applies to a lot of stuff!

              doing something is better than doing nothing. what good is trying to be perfect or going all the way when you feel like it's too much tackling all at once?

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              • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                @danirabbit Yeah. Don't want to go vegetarian/vegan entirely, so my wife and I just cut our meat consumption considerably, especially cow since it's the worst meat, environmentally. It may not get us any environmentalist of the year awards, but at least we're doing something.

                (I'd be fine with eating whatever meat someone wants if only the treatment of the animals was actually humane, they had more than enough space, and couldn't be killed before a certain humane lifespan. Of course, that would drive up costs considerably and make meats slightly less tasty, so unless we burn down our system and my guillotine business plan takes off, that's not going to happen.)

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                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                  I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                  People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                  So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                  @danirabbit I heard about a woman who’s vegan but eats cheese socially. I have a similar approach, veggie at home but burgers allowed if I’m eating out

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                  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                    @danirabbit

                    It's a terrible shame that synthetic meat seems to have fizzled out. It would've solved a lot of problems.

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                    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                      @danirabbit I totally agree, and I would like people to be less hard on themselves. Any improvement is great. Celebrate that. We all have a lot of things going on around us. Celebrate the efforts you make on doing good things. You're great! You're making the world better for yourself and for others! Celebrate every tiny win!

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                      • Thom, Itanium™ influencerT Thom, Itanium™ influencer

                        @danirabbit Yeah. Don't want to go vegetarian/vegan entirely, so my wife and I just cut our meat consumption considerably, especially cow since it's the worst meat, environmentally. It may not get us any environmentalist of the year awards, but at least we're doing something.

                        (I'd be fine with eating whatever meat someone wants if only the treatment of the animals was actually humane, they had more than enough space, and couldn't be killed before a certain humane lifespan. Of course, that would drive up costs considerably and make meats slightly less tasty, so unless we burn down our system and my guillotine business plan takes off, that's not going to happen.)

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                        @thomholwerda @danirabbit Longer lives and more space to roam actually makes meat *more* tasty, since the muscles get a chance to actually develop. It costs more because the livestock-feed-to-saleable-meat throughput of any given piece of land is much lower. One of the butchers I buy from (Porter Road) specifically pitches this as the reason higher prices are worth paying.

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                        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                          @danirabbit
                          I was vegetarian for 5 or 6 years, except for the ocassional specific Chinese dish beef dish that I didn't find a proper replacement for. So, like every six months or so, I'd order a couple excellent veggie Chinese dishes and one beef. That purity thing can mess people up.
                          @thomholwerda

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                          • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                            I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                            People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                            So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                            @danirabbit
                            I remember one guy from college who was pretty strict with himself and kept vegan. He'd been so his whole life.

                            EXCEPT burgers. He preferred his vegan burgers with bacon on them, which always got him some looks. Cheese alternative, vegan condiments, and bacon.

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                            • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                              Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

                              Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

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                              @danirabbit Conversely, it’s incredibly easy to get swept up in the “I’m gonna do good!” thought and bite off more than you can chew. You see it with folks who get into privacy all the time; they actually MAKE the huge switches, get completely burnt, then go back to how they were feeling defeated.

                              Moderation isn’t just good advice those nervous to make big changes. It’s also a good mentality for those who want it all, but might forget that that doesn’t mean all at once.

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                              • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                                @danirabbit Exactly.

                                It has taken me a long time to be "mostly" vegetarian.
                                People change their diet quickly, and then complain and whinge and don't stick to it.

                                Of course that's going to be hard, unless you've got serious will-power.

                                First I started eating veggie stuff at work for lunch as it was really nice, but still having "normal" meals at night with my family.

                                Over the years I ate less and less meat, and found good alternatives (some even my meat-eating other half likes).

                                I found some good cheese alternatives.
                                I found a nice tea that doesn't require milk.
                                I use plant milks for pretty much everything.

                                I thought i'd never give up bacon, but I don't really miss it. I don't think i've had bacon for more than a year now.
                                I can smell it when other people are cooking it, but it doesn't really bother me.

                                I'm still far from being vegan, but i'm getting close....

                                The last thing I need to cut out is butter and cheese.

                                Vegan food has come a long way from the 80s and 90s when it was just crappy dry "nut roasts" and things like that.

                                There's no excuse not to at least eat more vegan stuff. There's so much choice now.

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                                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                  Maybe you can’t buy everything local. What one thing can you start buying local? Can you switch from Starbucks to the local coffee shop? Can you switch from Petco to the local pet feed store? Can you switch from Dominoes to a local pizza place?

                                  Maybe you can’t completely de-Google or de-Apple or de-Amazon your life. Can you switch one thing? Can you use DuckDuckGo? Move your passwords to Bitwarden? Open a Fastmail account?

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                                  @danirabbit There's the whole performative aspect of it too. Like, I tried switching to DuckDuckGo, and switched back to Google because the search results, which are just Microslop Bing as I understand it, we're objectively worse. No big announcement, just installed udm14 and went on with my life. The only reason anyone knows I switched to Debian is because I'm a huge nerd and like talking about my computer crimes. (And making "lesbian" puns.)

                                  And maybe I'm overly cynical, since "I switched to this significantly less affordable thing which is morally superior" is just not an option for me, but I think that is why people don't do vegan plus bacon, because you can't brag about it.

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                                  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                    I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                    People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                    So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                                    @danirabbit@mastodon.online I think this is the most sensible recommendation I've read in a long time.

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                                    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                      I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                      People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                      So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                                      @danirabbit So right.

                                      The funny thing I've learned is, you might *think* you could never live without some food, but the more you switch your diet to plant based the less you crave or sometimes even want animal based foods.

                                      I used to think I could never give up steak or bacon. I no longer desire either & can't even remember the last time I had them.

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                                      • Thom, Itanium™ influencerT Thom, Itanium™ influencer

                                        @danirabbit Yeah. Don't want to go vegetarian/vegan entirely, so my wife and I just cut our meat consumption considerably, especially cow since it's the worst meat, environmentally. It may not get us any environmentalist of the year awards, but at least we're doing something.

                                        (I'd be fine with eating whatever meat someone wants if only the treatment of the animals was actually humane, they had more than enough space, and couldn't be killed before a certain humane lifespan. Of course, that would drive up costs considerably and make meats slightly less tasty, so unless we burn down our system and my guillotine business plan takes off, that's not going to happen.)

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                                        @thomholwerda @danirabbit I mean, red meat is a class 2a carcinogen & preserved meat like bacon is a class 1 carcinogen.

                                        So, cutting back isn't just good the planet & kinder to our non-human cohabitants, it lowers your cancer risk.

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                                        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                          I can’t remember where I saw it, but I feel like today is a good time to revisit the concept of “Vegan + bacon”.

                                          People often avoid making small positive changes because they get caught up in trying to go all the way. For example, “I could never go vegan. I love bacon too much”.

                                          So then go vegan plus bacon. Or vegetarian plus bacon. Or just switch to oat milk and eat more vegetables. Whatever small change you can make is good

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                                          @danirabbit

                                          I agree with you, when it comes to sedimented habits not always the "big bang" is the right way. It can be for some of us but not for all.

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